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Old 09-08-2007, 09:02 PM
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Disturbing Trends or Christian Maturity?

Disturbing Trends?

"Mass healings" of general, unverifiable pains, ailments and diabetes while the crippled and those in wheelchairs are not singled out for healing of their obvious need.


Addressing the devil in prayer, cursing sickness and rebuking the devil in tongues.


"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.


We speak things that are not as though they were... but when is this done at the expense of truth?
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:08 PM
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"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.




very disturbing to me....
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:10 PM
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"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.

I think the others are up for debate but not this one. I believe the Bible says something about "speaking in unknown tongues as the Spirit gives utterance!"

If I need to pray in the Spirit God will not tell someone else to tell me when but His Holy Spirit will give me the utterance.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:11 PM
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"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.




very disturbing to me....
Ditto.
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:37 PM
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Disturbing Trends?

"Mass healings" of general, unverifiable pains, ailments and diabetes while the crippled and those in wheelchairs are not singled out for healing of their obvious need.


Addressing the devil in prayer, cursing sickness and rebuking the devil in tongues.


"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.


We speak things that are not as though they were... but when is this done at the expense of truth?
This is what you were speaking of earlier?

Some of this has been going on now for some time though. I've been in meetings when we were still in the UPC back in the 80s where some of this stuff started -- particularly the commanding everyone to start speaking in tongues. Man, I hated that and I resisted it. No way would I do that just because someone said to.

You know where that comes from though, right?
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:41 PM
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Disturbing Trends?

"Mass healings" of general, unverifiable pains, ailments and diabetes while the crippled and those in wheelchairs are not singled out for healing of their obvious need.


Addressing the devil in prayer, cursing sickness and rebuking the devil in tongues.

"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.


We speak things that are not as though they were... but when is this done at the expense of truth?
The devil cannot understand tongues. What is the purpose of this????

I have seen the prayers for mass healings in large conferences. Doesn't bother me, but also they need to pray for those obviously infirmed.

There are times when we are in a prayer meeting that Eddie asks everyone that is comfortable, and can, to pray in tongues. I don't find that offensive, since we are all interceding together. We don't do that in our services though, as it would cause confusion.

JMHO on these issues....
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"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.




very disturbing to me....

Same for me. I've been in several of these services and always felt the same way....disturbed!
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Disturbing Trends?

"Mass healings" of general, unverifiable pains, ailments and diabetes while the crippled and those in wheelchairs are not singled out for healing of their obvious need.


Addressing the devil in prayer, cursing sickness and rebuking the devil in tongues.


"Commanding" everyone to start speaking in tongues when a signal is given.


We speak things that are not as though they were... but when is this done at the expense of truth?
Disturbing trends, my friend....
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Old 09-08-2007, 09:46 PM
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Sounds like the UPC is "comin' our way"!
Just kidding!
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This is what you were speaking of earlier?

Some of this has been going on now for some time though. I've been in meetings when we were still in the UPC back in the 80s where some of this stuff started -- particularly the commanding everyone to start speaking in tongues. Man, I hated that and I resisted it. No way would I do that just because someone said to.

You know where that comes from though, right?

Yes and Yes.

And I know it's not entirely new.
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