Needed - A Progressive Apostolic Youth Pastor

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

You obviously are a newbie here. We LOVE posters that are always LOOKING what what we DID NOT SAY! Thats a nice game to play isn't it - right up there with hop-scotch! Real Elementary!

Are you REALLY Bob Dylan? Did you really become a Christian - Bob or was it just to sell records? Are you really just all about Money?

If you are needing someone to baptize you and you are really sincere about water baptism, I will be happy to have one of our counselors talk with you if you would like to schedule an appointment.
God bless you as you obviously desire to be obedient to the Word of God and be baptized in water. Thank you for your interest in water baptism.

Could you give me the version of the Holy Bible you quoted this from - I sure would love to read it myself, "full immersion baptism calling only on the name of Jesus." Did Jesus himself say this - were these words in RED?
I am sure you would not add too or take away anything from the Word of God as you could find yourself under the judgment of God and in danger of Hell Fire!

I hardly think this is an appropriate response to some honest and simple quesitons. Perhaps it's not in your capacity to answer honestly. I think this reveals alot about you as a person and as a "minister".

I may be a newbie on this site, but I am not a "newbie" when it comes to forum posting, or for doctrinal matters.

Why is it that you want an "apostolic" young preacher to come assiste in your "progressive" false doctrine church? So you can have the benefit of a real man of God on your staff, with real anointing, while you defile him and fill him with your venom? I suggest you go find your assistant at the local charismatic gay bar, he might fit in with your ilk a little more appropriately...

[Sister Alvear]

I am shocked that we talk to each other in this manner.
I am considered an ultra con by some BUT never would I say something like that to Bishop Pugh. If you don´t agree with him there are other ways to express yourself.
We are to be an example even in our differences.

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I am shocked that we talk to each other in this manner.
I am considered an ultra con by some BUT never would I say something like that to Bishop Pugh. If you don´t agree with him there are other ways to express yourself.
We are to be an example even in our differences.

Sister, I apologize, but my response is simply a natural recourse for the condescending attitude he addressed me with. I asked two very simply question, then he responds with condescension and indifference... I shoot back with very simple observations about the inappropriateness of his approach, and yes, I got a little carried away but he needs to know he has to right to talk to ANYONE that way... even if someone is a "newbie". I don't know "Bishop Pugh", but from looking at him, and considering his response, his unwillingness to answer clear simple doctrinal questions, and also the false doctrine he is embracing, I hardly doubt he is someone who should be consider "Bishop"....

"Many will say unto me 'Lord Lord, have we not prophesied in they name, and in they name cast out devils, and in thy name done many wonderful works'... but I will profess unto them, 'I never knew you, depart from me ye that work iniquity'" (Matt 7:21-23)

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Sister, I apologize, but my response is simply a natural recourse for the condescending attitude he addressed me with. I asked two very simply question, then he responds with condescension and indifference... I shoot back with very simple observations about the inappropriateness of his approach, and yes, I got a little carried away but he needs to know he has to right to talk to ANYONE that way... even if someone is a "newbie". I don't know "Bishop Pugh", but from looking at him, and considering his response, his unwillingness to answer clear simple doctrinal questions, and also the false doctrine he is embracing, I hardly doubt he is someone who should be consider "Bishop"....

"Many will say unto me 'Lord Lord, have we not prophesied in they name, and in they name cast out devils, and in thy name done many wonderful works'... but I will profess unto them, 'I never knew you, depart from me ye that work iniquity'" (Matt 7:21-23)

Bro, AtlantaBishop was just trying to pull your chain.....and apparently he succeeded!

[Sister Alvear]

You would have to know him! He is a nice person, likes to cut up...You would like him if you really knew him...I did not read all the posts...sorry if I said anything wrong but since I know him and his wife I do know that they are sweet people. We may be different but we are friends. His wife is a real sweet lady.
Blessings to you from Brazil and please do remember our mission work in your prayers.

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Bro, AtlantaBishop was just trying to pull your chain.....and apparently he succeeded!

Evidently he succeeded. It certainly made for an interesting last couple responses! We'll see how good his character is if he can take what I said with a grain of salt and good spirit and attitude.....

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

You would have to know him! He is a nice person, likes to cut up...You would like him if you really knew him...I did not read all the posts...sorry if I said anything wrong but since I know him and his wife I do know that they are sweet people. We may be different but we are friends. His wife is a real sweet lady.
Blessings to you from Brazil and please do remember our mission work in your prayers.

I don't think you said ANYTHING wrong, and I appreciate your candor and concern. I may have stepped out of line in that I do not know AB. But he doesn't know me either, called me a "newbie" (not that that bothers me, but it just shows he doesn't know me), and since he doesn't know me he doesn't knwo how I am going to take his attempt at satire, if indeed that is what it was. Usually, when two people first get acquainted, they approach one another cautiously. I did not observe ANY caution or consideration in his FIRST approach to me. All I did was ask two simple and sincere questions, or rather ONE question, does he baptize by immersion in Jesus name only. In my opinion that one introductory and sincere question struck a sour note with him, or his FIRST response to me would have been with the same sincerety and caution one would expect. But he threw all gentlemanliness out the windor, and I CAN play that game! Thanks sister for your work in Brazil, and I have prayed for you guys in the past and will do so in the future! Lord bless!!!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Sister, I apologize, but my response is simply a natural recourse for the condescending attitude he addressed me with. I asked two very simply question, then he responds with condescension and indifference... I shoot back with very simple observations about the inappropriateness of his approach, and yes, I got a little carried away but he needs to know he has to right to talk to ANYONE that way... even if someone is a "newbie". I don't know "Bishop Pugh", but from looking at him, and considering his response, his unwillingness to answer clear simple doctrinal questions, and also the false doctrine he is embracing, I hardly doubt he is someone who should be consider "Bishop"....

Originally Posted by BobDylan

"Many will say unto me 'Lord Lord, have we not prophesied in they name, and in they name cast out devils, and in thy name done many wonderful works'... but I will profess unto them, 'I never knew you, depart from me ye that work iniquity'" (Matt 7:21-23)

BobDylan, just because AB's web site failed to include the words "full immersion" you decided to pick a fight with him. AB bit back and then you went on about "defiling" and "gay bars."

The man discussed using a baptistery in his first posts. Didn't you conclude that the use of a baptistery at least implied "full immersion?" Your challenge to him sounded like a joke, not a serious doctrinal question.

What purpose is a "baptistery" if not for immersion? The Bishop wasn't talking about needing a garden hose or a "font." You're way too tangled up in blues. **** I wanted to add a smiley after reading your more recent posts. No real argument from me- it's just that I thought you were yanking his chain at first, until some others piled on.

[BobDylan]

Originally Posted by pelathais

BobDylan, just because AB's web site failed to include the words "full immersion" you decided to pick a fight with him. AB bit back and then you went on about "defiling" and "gay bars."

Frist of all, by YOU saying I was trying to pick a fight you are trying to determine my initial intent, which neither you nor he are equipped or qualified to do. I simply was asking whether he baptized in immersion in Jesus name for clarification. He asked for an apostolic young preacher. One of the cornerstone doctrines of being apostolic is baptizing in Jesus name only. If there is not mention of this mode in his website, I am wondering if he is indeed apostolic and why he is asking for an apostolic preacher to come assist him. I was ONLY wanting clarification, not to pick a fight! For either you or he to come to that conclusion is entirely inappropriate.

Originally Posted by pelathais

The man discussed using a baptistery in his first posts. Didn't you conclude that the use of a baptistery at least implied "full immersion?" Your challenge to him sounded like a joke, not a serious doctrinal question.

What purpose is a "baptistery" if not for immersion? The Bishop wasn't talking about needing a garden hose or a "font." You're way too tangled up in blues.

I was more concerned with the fact of using Jesus name, than full immersion. can I get some clarity on that please? Also, if you notice his signiature? I didn't notice it when I first posted, until I recently logged on... I simply asked two quesiont, does he baptize in Jesus name only (and by implication by immersion), and would he baptize into the father, son, and Holy Ghost if requested. And honest and simple answer would suffice. I am sure he is a big boy, if he can answer me like that from the beginning, he should be able to take my response...

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BobDylan

Frist of all, by YOU saying I was trying to pick a fight you are trying to determine my initial intent, which neither you nor he are equipped or qualified to do. I simply was asking whether he baptized in immersion in Jesus name for clarification. He asked for an apostolic young preacher. One of the cornerstone doctrines of being apostolic is baptizing in Jesus name only. If there is not mention of this mode in his website, I am wondering if he is indeed apostolic and why he is asking for an apostolic preacher to come assist him. I was ONLY wanting clarification, not to pick a fight! For either you or he to come to that conclusion is entirely inappropriate.

"Inappropriate?" Could I just be "mistaken" or "wrong" without being "inappropriate?"

Adding your own judgements clouds the discussion- especially when your point was that my judgements were wrong. Then we go back and forth about our feelings until we can get together for a group hug. Let's hug now ...

Originally Posted by BobDylan

I was more concerned with the fact of using Jesus name, than full immersion. can I get some clarity on that please? Also, if you notice his signiature? I didn't notice it when I first posted, until I recently logged on... I simply asked two quesiont, does he baptize in Jesus name only (and by implication by immersion), and would he baptize into the father, son, and Holy Ghost if requested. And honest and simple answer would suffice. I am sure he is a big boy, if he can answer me like that from the beginning, he should be able to take my response...

That's cool. Of course the clarity I sought was missing from your original post where you stated "full immersion." I had no idea that you equated "full immersion" with "Jesus Name." From my experience, by far most people who dunk with "full immersion" do so in the name of the titles, and etc.

Refresh your page from time to time. I've noticed that there is some lag on this board. Maybe it's just my connection here at work. Rock on.