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10-27-2024, 01:12 PM
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Re: Random Questions Thread
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Originally Posted by shag
Probably from the mouth of John Hagee
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It's an extreme hyperdispensationalist view, held by a minority, usually radical Baptist types. These people also maintain that the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels were "under the law and for Israel only, not the church" and therefore likewise do not apply to us at the present.
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10-27-2024, 01:15 PM
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Re: Random Questions Thread
Shag:
Here are scripture references to help:
- Romans 11:17-24 (olive tree analogy)
- Hosea 1:9-10 (Israel declared "Not My People")
- Genesis 12:3; 15:5; 17:4-6 (Abraham's descendants to become a multitude of nations)
- Ezekiel 37:15-28 (reunion of Judah and Israel under Messiah)
- Ephesians 2:11-22 (unity of Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ)
- Galatians 3:28-29 (no distinction between Jew and Gentile in Christ)
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10-27-2024, 01:34 PM
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Re: Random Questions Thread
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Acts 17:26 KJV
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
The bible says "made of one blood all nations of men", not "made from one man every nation of mankind".
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The Alexandrian Text vs the Textus Receptus.
What the theological difference between one man vs one blood?
The concept of original sin?
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10-27-2024, 01:41 PM
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Re: Random Questions Thread
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Originally Posted by Amanah
The Alexandrian Text vs the Textus Receptus.
What the theological difference between one man vs one blood?
The concept of original sin?
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Original sin doctrine plays into it, note however the Latin Vulgate of the RCC and it's English translations do not say "of one man" but simply "made of one all nations" etc.
It's not that big of a deal except for the fact people read universal statements in the Bible and press them to the literal extreme which winds up creating contradictions with other parts of the Bible or with common sense.
Caesar declared " all the world is to be taxed" but the Mayans and the Chinese never got the memo.
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Re: Random Questions Thread
Esaias, have you or Amanah ever been accused of being a “jew hater”?
I’m guessing probably so.
That’s where I’m at, (siblings wise).
Ain’t that something
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Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29
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Yesterday, 01:52 PM
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Re: Random Questions Thread
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Originally Posted by shag
Esaias, have you or Amanah ever been accused of being a “jew hater”?
I’m guessing probably so.
That’s where I’m at, (siblings wise).
Ain’t that something
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People who know me know that isn't case.
I just explain that people in Israel are just like us, people who God wants to save through the gospel.
Israel isn't a Jewish nation anymore than the US is a Christian nation.
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Re: Random Questions Thread
I probably just need to better watch how I communicate what I believe
There’s something about bringing what-why John called anti-Christ and liars in it that seems to rub people the wrong way
imagine
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Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29
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Yesterday, 05:58 PM
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Re: Random Questions Thread
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Originally Posted by shag
I probably just need to better watch how I communicate what I believe
There’s something about bringing what-why John called anti-Christ and liars in it that seems to rub people the wrong way
imagine
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People have been programmed to think that criticism of anything "Jewish" is literally Hitler, "antisemitic", and evil. Meanwhile being antichrist gets a pass with no outrage.
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