What's your view on Hell? - Page 43

Nicodemus1968 · #**421** 01-16-2022, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by coksiw

I shouldn’t have used the word “accurate” because it was not very accurate

I was joking when I wrote that.

Tithesmeister · #**422** 01-16-2022, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

The word “carnal” is translated from the Greek word sarkikos, which literally means “fleshly.” We read this same word in;

1Corinthians 3:1
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

Paul calls them carnal and even refers to them as brethren. We can conclude that a christian can be carnal, the Bible as we all should understands makes no man as sinless except Jesus Christ. Every time we sin, we were acting carnally.

Some believers believe we can live in a carnal, "fleshy" lifestyle all the while live a spirit filled life filled with the miraculous. I do not believe one can do that, you cannot serve two masters, you either will follow after the spirit or you will follow after the flesh/carnality.

I repeat the words of Paul, "for to be carnally minded is death...."

Unless this is one of those "not accurate" writings in Pauls ministry...

The quote highlighted above is simply not true.
You are getting very close to saying that all carnality is sin.

Is that what you believe?

The scripture you are referring to is about the two masters of God and mammon.

Matt.6

[24] No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

A good example of this verse would be lying about tithes. Saying it is money and that it is the entitlement of the ministry/pastor. So lying, in this case would be a sin. But it is not a carnal sin. Money is not carnal.

Adultery, on the other hand, is a carnal sin. It certainly is not the only one, drunkenness is another.

You are getting really close to understanding what carnal means, I think. The problem is that you have a preconceived notion in your head of what carnality is, and you will not give it up. Carnality has to do with the body (that God created, by the way).

Carnality is not necessarily a bad thing, but it certainly can be. It can be a good thing as well. You see without carnality the human race cannot survive.

Genesis 1

[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

God commanded carnality. Read between the lines. How do you think God ordained (ordered) that we were to multiply? Only one time can I think of when multiplying, as ordered by God, occurred without carnality.

I’m going to post a different definition, which is a form of the word carnal. The word is carnage.

Thanks to Merriam Webster.

the flesh of slain animals or humans

You see the word flesh in this definition?

Do you also remember the word flesh in your definition?

Are you connecting the dots?

Carnal sin involves the flesh, actually.

Evang.Benincasa · #**423** 01-16-2022, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1 God

Rene.

PROVE IT.

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Spirits are not laying in dust.

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No, right. They that sleep in the dust shall be resurrected from dust. The body in the afterlife is very physical. So is the new heaven and earth.

Interesting, Sean refuting Sean.

1 God · #**424** 01-16-2022, 07:17 PM

You missed it. Flesh comes from dust. You need to see the bodies remade from the dust of the earth to be united with their spirits contained in the holding place. This is so detailed that their worm does not even die.

Rene.

Evang.Benincasa · #**425** 01-17-2022, 03:52 AM

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You missed it. Flesh comes from dust. You need to see the bodies remade from the dust of the earth to be united with their spirits contained in the holding place. This is so detailed that their worm does not even die.

OK, so now Abraham's Bosom has maggots?

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Originally Posted by 1 God

Rene.

Prove it.

Amanah · #**426** 01-17-2022, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

OK, so now Abraham's Bosom has maggots?

Laughing myself silly

The entertainment on this forum alone is worth the price of admission.

Evang.Benincasa · #**427** 01-17-2022, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Laughing myself silly

The entertainment on this forum alone is worth the price of admission.

1 God · #**428** 01-17-2022, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

OK, so now Abraham's Bosom has maggots?

Prove it.

Okay...

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched...

Proved in 3 repeated statements of Jesus in a single passage.

diakonos · #**429** 01-17-2022, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 1 God

Okay...

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched...

Proved in 3 repeated statements of Jesus in a single passage.

If you REALLY believed Jesus you would not have hands or eyes.

Evang.Benincasa · #**430** 01-17-2022, 08:22 AM

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Okay...

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched...

It is speaking that the fire is eternal, and maggots were eternal. The language depicts a state of total destruction on the corpse.

So in your Bible studies you teach that John the Baptist is in Abraham's Bosom headless. Good job.

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Originally Posted by 1 God

Proved in 3 repeated statements of Jesus in a single passage.

I posted to you that you can't PROVE you are Rene.