Gay people in Church - Page 3

TalkLady · #21 06-17-2007, 03:30 PM

I know I may be attacked after this post - but I think there are preachers who could benefit from a course in sensitivity training. ....I don't mean formalized secular training necessarily but some discussion about what is appropriate and inappropriate as far was what is said about homosexuals from a pulpit.

Sin is sin and homosexual sin is so much more stigmatized than heterosexual. Both are wrong. Both are sin. I was in a church service with some people who had Church of Christ backgrounds and they were "Campbellited right out the door"......It was Campbellites this and Campbellites that...My husband and I love this kindly preacher but that type of language serves no purpose. Also, the same with some Baptist people I invited. Billy Graham was attacked. What was the purpose in that? ...They, too, went right out the door. It was heartbreaking to have worked hard to inivite someone to church and then have the evangelist run them off with those offensive comments. I don't think homosexual people should be called _________ (use your imagination for those words I don't want to type) from the pulpit......I don't think Church of Christ people should be called Campbellites. I think preachers should deal with the sin and not get into such offensive language. Most of the preachers I know are well disciplined in these matters. Often it is older preacher who is using this type of language. I realize the older are supposed to teach the younger, but I have often wondered how a younger minister might be able to discuss this with an older minister?.....This type of thing seems almost unapproachable. ....I wish some of the younger men could have a talk to the older men about this type of thing.

ILG · #22 06-17-2007, 03:33 PM

I think all gay people should be invited to church. How else are they going to get saved? Church people should treat people nicely, but it's not always going to happen either. The person who invited them should act as somewhat of an advocate for them maybe.

TalkLady · #23 06-17-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

I think all gay people should be invited to church. How else are they going to get saved? Church people should treat people nicely, but it's not always going to happen either. The person who invited them should act as somewhat of an advocate for them maybe.

I agree, ILG....There are gay people who work with me - several. I have invited some of them to church but no one has ever come. I think if one did come I would almost feel obligated to go to the pastor and tell him "this person is gay"...Maybe that would help. The people I work with are not closet gays. They have been with the same people for over 20 years.

Old Paths · #24 06-17-2007, 04:03 PM

I would answer, but I suffer from an extreme case of homophobia.

RevDWW · #25 06-17-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I will get executed I guess but this is a sincere question. I know from scripture that homosexuals can be saved(1Cor. 6:9-11) however has anyone ever known one changing and staying changed? I haven't I would just like to know if anyone personally knows of one changing and maintaining their 'straight' stance for a good period of time?? Again NOT saying it can't be done we have scripture 'where such were some of you.' Just asking for personal experience?

Yes I know of a guy that repented, was baptized and received the Holy Ghost. Changed his life and lifestyle completely and now he preaches the gospel. Last time I saw him and his wife they were doing great and had a blessed family.

God can do what we might consider to impossible!

Rhoni · #26 06-17-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TalkLady

I know I may be attacked after this post - but I think there are preachers who could benefit from a course in sensitivity training. ....I don't mean formalized secular training necessarily but some discussion about what is appropriate and inappropriate as far was what is said about homosexuals from a pulpit.

Sin is sin and homosexual sin is so much more stigmatized than heterosexual. Both are wrong. Both are sin. I was in a church service with some people who had Church of Christ backgrounds and they were "Campbellited right out the door"......It was Campbellites this and Campbellites that...My husband and I love this kindly preacher but that type of language serves no purpose. Also, the same with some Baptist people I invited. Billy Graham was attacked. What was the purpose in that? ...They, too, went right out the door. It was heartbreaking to have worked hard to inivite someone to church and then have the evangelist run them off with those offensive comments. I don't think homosexual people should be called _________ (use your imagination for those words I don't want to type) from the pulpit......I don't think Church of Christ people should be called Campbellites. I think preachers should deal with the sin and not get into such offensive language. Most of the preachers I know are well disciplined in these matters. Often it is older preacher who is using this type of language. I realize the older are supposed to teach the younger, but I have often wondered how a younger minister might be able to discuss this with an older minister?.....This type of thing seems almost unapproachable. ....I wish some of the younger men could have a talk to the older men about this type of thing.

Good Post!

Rhoni · #27 06-17-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths

I would answer, but I suffer from an extreme case of homophobia.

I'll be praying for your deliverance.

Blessings, Rhoni

ILG · #28 06-17-2007, 04:27 PM

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Sin is sin and homosexual sin is so much more stigmatized than heterosexual. Both are wrong. Both are sin. I was in a church service with some people who had Church of Christ backgrounds and they were "Campbellited right out the door"......It was Campbellites this and Campbellites that...My husband and I love this kindly preacher but that type of language serves no purpose. Also, the same with some Baptist people I invited. Billy Graham was attacked. What was the purpose in that? ...They, too, went right out the door. It was heartbreaking to have worked hard to inivite someone to church and then have the evangelist run them off with those offensive comments. I don't think homosexual people should be called _________ (use your imagination for those words I don't want to type) from the pulpit......I don't think Church of Christ people should be called Campbellites. I think preachers should deal with the sin and not get into such offensive language. Most of the preachers I know are well disciplined in these matters. Often it is older preacher who is using this type of language. I realize the older are supposed to teach the younger, but I have often wondered how a younger minister might be able to discuss this with an older minister?.....This type of thing seems almost unapproachable. ....I wish some of the younger men could have a talk to the older men about this type of thing.

I agree, but some people think that this type of language means they are not "soft on the message". To them, they think speaking nicely and respectfully means they are compromising. And that's sad.

Old Paths · #29 06-17-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

I'll be praying for your deliverance.

Blessings, Rhoni

Help yourself.

I can use the prayer and you can use the practice.

MissBrattified · #30 06-17-2007, 05:16 PM

A sinner is a sinner is a sinner...and a Christian's primary calling is to lead them to Christ.

Here's a thought...have we had only a few homosexuals saved because Christians, for the most part, avoid them?