Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by n david

There’s a video showing a white truck swerving towards the protester, then turning into the church parking lot. An arrest warrant was issued for the driver but I haven’t read any update on it.

Doesn’t matter what precipitated the two actions. We’re supposed to have the HG and fruits of the spirit inside of us. The protester is a sinner doing what sinners do. There’s no excuse for especially a Pastor to do anything like that.

Originally Posted by james34

Exactly, it seems that the church has forgotten that the message of the Bible is perfection . Those that are Christs have crucified the flesh...if the flesh is alive we are not his.

Yah and they claim to be Christians .... I remember hearing about this one guy that claimed to be a follower of Jesus and then chopped off some dudes ear when they were arresting his closed friend.... you may have heard of him his name was peter.... I’m glad us Christians don’t mess up like all these men.

[n david]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I beg to differ.
If someone threatens or harasses my family, I will defend them.
And the Bible backs that up.

There was no threat. And the Bible does not suggest that people should lose their cool and confront others for harassing them. Good grief, look at what happened with the early church martyrs. Remind me where they defended themselves.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

he was wanting to do was to get out of the bus and speak to the protestor. And Sis. Spell was in the bus telling him to stop and just go.
Which he eventually listened to.

One doesn't need to drive a bus towards a protester to speak with them. And discernment should tell you it's not a good idea to do what he did.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

he had it to do over again, he says he would have listened to her and drove on.

It's good that he recognizes that it was a bad idea and he wouldn't do it again, but unfortunately, the damage has already been done.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

trying to pretend that this is the unforgivable or unpardonable sin makes me want to know how perfect all of you are...

No one is pretending or suggesting this is the unforgivable or unpardonable sin. Stop it. We're also not making excuses just because of the role and status of the person.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

church (or Bro. Spell) should have just taken this guy to court and hit him with a restraining order (because he had taken to following church people around town and basically shouting "unclean, unclean").

Source for that claim, please. The articles I've read say he has been in front of the church protesting. I haven't read that he's followed people around town. If true, those people should file a report with the police.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

But hindsight is always 2020...

Discernment shouldn't need hindsight.

[n david]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Yah and they claim to be Christians .... I remember hearing about this one guy that claimed to be a follower of Jesus and then chopped off some dudes ear when they were arresting his closed friend.... you may have heard of him his name was peter.... I’m glad us Christians don’t mess up like all these men.

Good grief...

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by james34

if the flesh is alive we are not his.

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[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Yah and they claim to be Christians .... I remember hearing about this one guy that claimed to be a follower of Jesus and then chopped off some dudes ear when they were arresting his closed friend.... you may have heard of him his name was peter.... I’m glad us Christians don’t mess up like all these men.

This was before Peter, was filled with the Holy Ghost and gave the utterance of tongues.

[consapente89]

Seems like Bro. Spell teetered a bit, but in the end followed through with a cool head and sound wisdom. Backing the bus up to speak to the man is not a crime. Could be that had he gotten out of the bus, a crime may have been committed. Which is why he didn't follow through with it.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Yah and they claim to be Christians .... I remember hearing about this one guy that claimed to be a follower of Jesus and then chopped off some dudes ear when they were arresting his closed friend.... you may have heard of him his name was peter.... I’m glad us Christians don’t mess up like all these men.

Peter did no have the Holy Ghost.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

This was before Peter, was filled with the Holy Ghost and gave the utterance of tongues.

Exactactamente!

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Seems like Bro. Spell teetered a bit, but in the end followed through with a cool head and sound wisdom. Backing the bus up to speak to the man is not a crime. Could be that had he gotten out of the bus, a crime may have been committed. Which is why he didn't follow through with it.

He didn’t get out of the bus because he was going to assault the protester? Really need some clarity on what you mean.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by n david

There was no threat. And the Bible does not suggest that people should lose their cool and confront others for harassing them. Good grief, look at what happened with the early church martyrs. Remind me where they defended themselves.


One doesn't need to drive a bus towards a protester to speak with them. And discernment should tell you it's not a good idea to do what he did.


It's good that he recognizes that it was a bad idea and he wouldn't do it again, but unfortunately, the damage has already been done.


No one is pretending or suggesting this is the unforgivable or unpardonable sin. Stop it. We're also not making excuses just because of the role and status of the person.


Source for that claim, please. The articles I've read say he has been in front of the church protesting. I haven't read that he's followed people around town. If true, those people should file a report with the police.


Discernment shouldn't need hindsight.

nd - with all due respect, I am closer to the situation than anyone on here. At least, so far as I know. There may have not been a stated threat, but there was harassment of church people. And not just at the church.
The media would have you believe that all the protester did was stand in front of the church with a sign. It was far more than that.
But, it would have been far better to file a report with the police, but there are other reasons why that would not have worked, either.
And as for discernment shouldn't need hindsight.

Well, show me someone, you know, who displays perfect discernment...