Some comfort...

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The Lord spoke this to me as quick as you are reading this:

Psalm 31 - The just shall live by faith.

Psalm 31 is a prayer of King David, a messianic prayer, and an encouragement for us all who find that God is faithful even when we find ourselves in the most painful circumstances of life.

I saw, in a more concrete way, that “living by faith” involves more than what we normally think.

It is ALSO calling upon the name of Jesus during trying circumstances.

Sometimes, I believe, we view having fear or feeling weak as lacking faith. It is actually the opposite, when we are calling out to God for direction, deliverance, healing, etc.

True faith causes us to call upon His name. Our faith is what causes us to have hope and trust.

Thus, we understand - “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.” Romans 1:17

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The Lord spoke this to me as quick as you are reading this:

Psalm 31 - The just shall live by faith.

Psalm 31 is a prayer of King David, a messianic prayer, and an encouragement for us all who find that God is faithful even when we find ourselves in the most painful circumstances of life.

I saw, in a more concrete way, that “living by faith” involves more than what we normally think.

It is ALSO calling upon the name of Jesus during trying circumstances.

Sometimes, I believe, we view having fear or feeling weak as lacking faith. It is actually the opposite, when we are calling out to God for direction, deliverance, healing, etc.

True faith causes us to call upon His name. Our faith is what causes us to have hope and trust.

Thus, we understand - “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.” Romans 1:17

Amen! When I came home from work on March 13 and told my wife that I was laid off. My wife at first response got concerned and just responded, what are we going to do?
I said that we will trust God. My oldest daughter got laid off as the store she worked at closed down. She asked, what shall I do, do I apply for UI and go on unemployment?
I said to talk to your boss. She did and they said that she is going to still get paid.
My wife is self employed, and she hasn't worked. She has different clients on different days.
Two if her clients are Dentists, one of which is in self isolation because at the beginning of March they were at a Dental conference hosted at Vancouver Convention center this year.
A few people tested positive for Covid 19 at the conference and a 40 year old dentist died from it.
Anyways, two of these dentists called up and said, how are you guys doing? Give me your email and we will send money. So two dentists gave about 800 bucks.
We just got our annual GST refund. The government announced that they were giving everyone a one time stimulus of $600 extra for couples in their refund. Our bills are paid, we paid our tithe and offerings to Church.
God is good and he will provide if we look to him and trust him.😇🙏👍
Great post!😎

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ron

Amen! When I came home from work on March 13 and told my wife that I was laid off. My wife at first response got concerned and just responded, what are we going to do?
I said that we will trust God. My oldest daughter got laid off as the store she worked at closed down. She asked, what shall I do, do I apply for UI and go on unemployment?
I said to talk to your boss. She did and they said that she is going to still get paid.
My wife is self employed, and she hasn't worked. She has different clients on different days.
Two if her clients are Dentists, one of which is in self isolation because at the beginning of March they were at a Dental conference hosted at Vancouver Convention center this year.
A few people tested positive for Covid 19 at the conference and a 40 year old dentist died from it.
Anyways, two of these dentists called up and said, how are you guys doing? Give me your email and we will send money. So two dentists gave about 800 bucks.
We just got our annual GST refund. The government announced that they were giving everyone a one time stimulus of $600 extra for couples in their refund. Our bills are paid, we paid our tithe and offerings to Church.
God is good and he will provide if we look to him and trust him.😇🙏👍
Great post!😎

Awesome! God is good!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Could you elaborate a bit?

Man was created on the earth, earth is our Divinely appointed dwelling place.

Psalm 115:16 KJV
The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's : but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

This is not just our past and present, but our future as well:

Psalm 37:11 KJV
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Matthew 5:5 KJV
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The ultimate goal that God has is for men to dwell on the earth with God:

Revelation 21:2-5 KJV
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. [4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. [5] And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

In the beginning man was upon the earth, and in the end man is to be upon the earth. This is why resurrection is the goal. If man's destiny was to float around in heaven, there is no need for resurrection. But if man's destiny is to dwell on the earth with God, then resurrection is necessary.

In between death and resurrection, the dead are in the grave:

John 5:28-29 KJV
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Those who come forth unto the resurrection of life are IN THE GRAVES when they are called forth, not up in heaven. It isn't that they are in heaven but their bodies are in the grave, rather THEY are in the graves.

The only human in heaven is Jesus Christ:

Acts 2:29 KJV
Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

AFTER Jesus rose from the dead and ascended into heaven, David was still dead and buried and had NOT ascended into heaven:

Acts 2:34-35 KJV
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [35] Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

The catholic/protestant idea that when Jesus ascended into heaven He also took all the old testament saints with Him to heaven is false.. David was not gone up to heaven when Peter spoke those words, AFTER the ascension of Jesus. According to Peter the proof that David wasn't gone to heaven was the fact his grave still had his corpse in it. David hadn't gone anywhere. Nobody is going anywhere until the resurrection.

Daniel 7:26-27 KJV
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. [27] And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of God. The saints will dwell on the earth with God forever.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Man was created on the earth, earth is our Divinely appointed dwelling place.

Psalm 115:16 KJV
The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's : but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

This is not just our past and present, but our future as well:

Psalm 37:11 KJV
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Matthew 5:5 KJV
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The ultimate goal that God has is for men to dwell on the earth with God:

Revelation 21:2-5 KJV
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. [4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. [5] And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

In the beginning man was upon the earth, and in the end man is to be upon the earth. This is why resurrection is the goal. If man's destiny was to float around in heaven, there is no need for resurrection. But if man's destiny is to dwell on the earth with God, then resurrection is necessary.

In between death and resurrection, the dead are in the grave:

John 5:28-29 KJV
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Those who come forth unto the resurrection of life are IN THE GRAVES when they are called forth, not up in heaven. It isn't that they are in heaven but their bodies are in the grave, rather THEY are in the graves.

The only human in heaven is Jesus Christ:

Acts 2:29 KJV
Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

AFTER Jesus rose from the dead and ascended into heaven, David was still dead and buried and had NOT ascended into heaven:

Acts 2:34-35 KJV
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [35] Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

The catholic/protestant idea that when Jesus ascended into heaven He also took all the old testament saints with Him to heaven is false.. David was not gone up to heaven when Peter spoke those words, AFTER the ascension of Jesus. According to Peter the proof that David wasn't gone to heaven was the fact his grave still had his corpse in it. David hadn't gone anywhere. Nobody is going anywhere until the resurrection.

Daniel 7:26-27 KJV
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. [27] And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of God. The saints will dwell on the earth with God forever.

Thank you for the explanation. Very interesting.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Thank you for the explanation. Very interesting.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Thank you for the explanation. Very interesting.

Isn’t it, though?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Man was created on the earth, earth is our Divinely appointed dwelling place.

Psalm 115:16 KJV
The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's : but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

This is not just our past and present, but our future as well:

Psalm 37:11 KJV
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Matthew 5:5 KJV
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

The ultimate goal that God has is for men to dwell on the earth with God:

Revelation 21:2-5 KJV
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. [4] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. [5] And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

In the beginning man was upon the earth, and in the end man is to be upon the earth. This is why resurrection is the goal. If man's destiny was to float around in heaven, there is no need for resurrection. But if man's destiny is to dwell on the earth with God, then resurrection is necessary.

In between death and resurrection, the dead are in the grave:

John 5:28-29 KJV
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Those who come forth unto the resurrection of life are IN THE GRAVES when they are called forth, not up in heaven. It isn't that they are in heaven but their bodies are in the grave, rather THEY are in the graves.

The only human in heaven is Jesus Christ:

Acts 2:29 KJV
Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

AFTER Jesus rose from the dead and ascended into heaven, David was still dead and buried and had NOT ascended into heaven:

Acts 2:34-35 KJV
For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, [35] Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

The catholic/protestant idea that when Jesus ascended into heaven He also took all the old testament saints with Him to heaven is false.. David was not gone up to heaven when Peter spoke those words, AFTER the ascension of Jesus. According to Peter the proof that David wasn't gone to heaven was the fact his grave still had his corpse in it. David hadn't gone anywhere. Nobody is going anywhere until the resurrection.

Daniel 7:26-27 KJV
But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. [27] And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

The greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven shall be given to the people of God. The saints will dwell on the earth with God forever.

Trying to understand this correctly.
God will be with us as a spirit, on our earthly paradise.
Jesus will be in human form in heaven.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Trying to understand this correctly.
God will be with us as a spirit, on our earthly paradise.
Jesus will be in human form in heaven.

No.

Jesus will be here on earth as well. God is already with us "by His Spirit".