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Esaias · #**191** 03-11-2020, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Armapeet.Singh

Deu 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Deu 14:23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deu 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Deu 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

What does this mean?

It means the tithe was required to be paid in food and drink and specifically NOT money, and it was to be shared by the tither with the Levite, widows, orphans, strangers, and the tither's household. If they couldn't carry all that stuff, they were to sell it for cash, go to Jerusalem, and then buy the food and drink, and share it as a feast with the Levites, orphans, widows, strangers, and the rest of their household.

It means the commanded tithe was NEVER 10% of wages payable in cash to a priest, rabbi, or pastor.

Originalist · #**192** 03-11-2020, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's like saying the Bible does stop condemn stealing, only thievery. Or that the Bible does not condemn adultery, only adulterers.

Tithesmeister · #**193** 03-11-2020, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

It means the tithe was required to be paid in food and drink and specifically NOT money, and it was to be shared by the tither with the Levite, widows, orphans, strangers, and the tither's household. If they couldn't carry all that stuff, they were to sell it for cash, go to Jerusalem, and then buy the food and drink, and share it as a feast with the Levites, orphans, widows, strangers, and the rest of their household.

It means the commanded tithe was NEVER 10% of wages payable in cash to a priest, rabbi, or pastor.

There you go reading scripture again. You’re a trouble maker!

Tithesmeister · #**194** 03-11-2020, 08:53 PM

These threads seem to be running together. Perhaps the question should be:

If you drink Corona beer, to cure the Wuhan flu, can you still go to heaven, as long as you pay your tithes?

Nicodemus1968 · #**195** 03-12-2020, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

It means the tithe was required to be paid in food and drink and specifically NOT money, and it was to be shared by the tither with the Levite, widows, orphans, strangers, and the tither's household. If they couldn't carry all that stuff, they were to sell it for cash, go to Jerusalem, and then buy the food and drink, and share it as a feast with the Levites, orphans, widows, strangers, and the rest of their household.

It means the commanded tithe was NEVER 10% of wages payable in cash to a priest, rabbi, or pastor.

Who gave to the money bag Judas held? Why would Jesus need money?

Nicodemus1968 · #**196** 03-12-2020, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There you go reading scripture again. You’re a trouble maker!

Some men live by the letter....

Evang.Benincasa · #**197** 03-12-2020, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Who gave to the money bag Judas held? Why would Jesus need money?

Tithesmeister · #**198** 03-12-2020, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Some men live by the letter....

Let’s see. Who was it that quoted Malachi 3 as his basis for teaching tithes?

No! No! Don’t tell me! Ok. I give up.

Brother Nicodemus? Can you help me out here?

No wait! It was Brother Nicodemus! I’m sure of it!

How odd! The man who lives by the letter . . .

Speaks of others living by the letter. Brother? Would you possibly self identify as a neo-Pharisee? Just wondering.

Tithesmeister · #**199** 03-12-2020, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Who gave to the money bag Judas held? Why would Jesus need money?

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

By all means? Please tell me what exactly it is that you are trying to say here. I don’t want to assume.

Nicodemus1968 · #**200** 03-12-2020, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Let’s see. Who was it that quoted Malachi 3 as his basis for teaching tithes?

No! No! Don’t tell me! Ok. I give up.

Brother Nicodemus? Can you help me out here?

No wait! It was Brother Nicodemus! I’m sure of it!

How odd! The man who lives by the letter . . .

Speaks of others living by the letter. Brother? Would you possibly self identify as a neo-Pharisee? Just wondering.

Where did I say I teach Malachi 3 as their basis for Tithing?

Are you referring to when I answered your question?

I was taught probably like everyone here,

Genesis 28:20-22
And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on, [21] So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God: [22] And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Malachi 3:8
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

We can argue on thats not what that means. Yet, thats what I was taught and I believed it. I supported my Pastor for 17+ years through 10% tithe and 5% offering, every week, month, and year. Now, the tithe was a covenant between God and myself, it wasnt between the Pastor and myself. Jacobs vow to God wasnt to another man but to God! So I gave faithfully to the work of God, not to the man, and he in return took what he received and gave 10% back to the church.

What I preach and teach is different than what I was taught. I dont preach 10% tithe, and I dont preach offering. I say give unto the Lord, and whats put in the plate is whats in the plate. I wasn’t called of man, I was called of God. God will supply my need. This may be different than what you would believe, but you asked. I’m starting a work for God, new work from the ground up, so I work as God opens the door. If there is no work then i wait on God

Isaiah 40:31
But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

I was blessed to have a Pastor up here teach me about Gods provision. What he taught me is lost in Pentecost! The Holy Ghost spoke to me a year ago and told me “I’m going to take care of you”, and he has. I have probably worked maybe 70 hours from 2019 up till now. I dont live a lavish lifestyle, I can survive on very little. I dont need new vehicles, i dont need a big house, i need Jesus. I have 5 children and a wife, and we live in a single wide trailer in a trailer park. God has been good to us. I dont want to be a burden on the church, so that means to me I dont live in a way that will be!

I believe every minister should be full time, and if the church isn’t there, then work very little to sustain your monthly needs and work in the spirit. I am a servant to the souls in my town, at the drop of a hat I can be where the need is. I dont have to go to a boss to ask permission.

My mentor in a church not too far from me, had several families leave, they were big supporters of the church. A spirit of fear started working against him, that he might now have to go and get a job. I known him for 20+ years he would’ve went and did what he had to do, but God was going to use what others intented for evil, for good. One evening service a man came into the church, the Spirit told the Pastor, he is a raven, he is not here to be saved. The Pastor didnt know what to make of that. After service, the man came up to the Pastor and handed him a big wad of cash, the Pastor said “ill make sure it goes to the church”, the man looked at him and said “thats for you”, he walked out and hasn’t been there since.

1 Kings 17:4
And it shall be, that thou shalt drink of the brook; and I have commanded the ravens to feed thee there.

I believe in ravens, God has supplied my need through them. I believe in Gods provision, and I believe living in the spirit to where God supplies. So to answer you’re question again, I dont preach a 10% tithe or hell, but I don’t condemn those that do preach tithe (not the hell part).

Your going back to the old tithemeister. You need to resist the old man...