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View Poll Results: Is Jesus sitting on the throne in flesh?
Yes he's still in flesh. 15 42.86%
No, The Word is Spirit. 13 37.14%
I don't know, let me look deeper.. 7 20.00%
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:11 PM
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Re: Is Jesus Sitting on a Throne in His Flesh?

wow...what a great thread guys.

I was wondering about this the other day in fact.

I have a question...assuming that the abstract is considered eternity with no beginning and no end, we cannot fathom to understand it in our finite greek-logic laden minds. So, once Jesus assended into the abstract, doesn't Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21 and February 1, 2011 converge?

How on earth can we step up on a platform and make the statement that we understand the exact manifistation of God Almighty even to the damnation of others calling others who do not make such outlandish statements false prophets of the harlot church?

I don't get it...
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wow...what a great thread guys.

I was wondering about this the other day in fact.

I have a question...assuming that the abstract is considered eternity with no beginning and no end, we cannot fathom to understand it in our finite greek-logic laden minds. So, once Jesus assended into the abstract, doesn't Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21 and February 1, 2011 converge?

How on earth can we step up on a platform and make the statement that we understand the exact manifistation of God Almighty even to the damnation of others calling others who do not make such outlandish statements false prophets of the harlot church?

I don't get it...
We truly can't and should never. What you describe (damnation of other Christians) has become an intolerable enigma within OPism. I am done with being quiet about it.
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wow...what a great thread guys.

I was wondering about this the other day in fact.

I have a question...assuming that the abstract is considered eternity with no beginning and no end, we cannot fathom to understand it in our finite greek-logic laden minds. So, once Jesus assended into the abstract, doesn't Genesis 1:1 and Revelation 22:21 and February 1, 2011 converge?

How on earth can we step up on a platform and make the statement that we understand the exact manifistation of God Almighty even to the damnation of others calling others who do not make such outlandish statements false prophets of the harlot church?

I don't get it...
Jesus ascended into the abstract? What do you think that means?

And no, if you think this means we have no beginning, it does not.

The bible says we are given Eternal Life...that Life is HIS. He makes us immortal in other words. Which does not mean WE have Eternally existed. It means by His Eternal Life He makes us without end (immortal)
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The Body of Christ today is the Doctrines and body of the Church. That is how we eat of His flesh and drink His blood. We accept the doctrines and become the Body.

There is only one Body, the Church.

If someone believes that there is a seperate body than the church, floating around in heaven somewhere, that is heresy.

Teklemarian was kicked out of the upci for divine flesh, yet we see dispensationalists still preaching divine flesh up in heaven.

Again, the ONLY body of Christ is the Church and the doctrines associated with those doctrines.
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God is Spirit. Angels are spirits. God says "All heaven is my throne"..so it seems heaven is not a physical world. His throne is his dwelling place. Throne does not have to mean a literal chair but is symbolic of a kings rule

God, an omnipresent Spirit, is not literally taking weight off his tired feet by sitting on a literal throne.

Is Jesus "in his humanity" sitting on His throne? Yes! In other words Jesus has power NOW. Jesus is King. He rules. That does not mean there has to be a literal chair in heaven and Jesus is resting his tired feet sitting on it. It means that Jesus is reigning right now.
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MTD thinks before eternity God created a body to create Him a throne..
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I can't find the quote but at the first of the Logos Thread he says over and over how God began His creation creating a image which was the Logos. And usually he will go into detail on how the first thing the image created was a throne. The thought is not original with him, I've heard it preached,. The only thing Is I doubt God began creating carpentry, and moved up to creating the worlds
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