Do we have to pay tithes? - Page 31

Originalist · #**301** 04-20-2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

No God said Exodus 30:31-38 "And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, This shall be an holy anointing oil unto me throughout your generations.

God says it is holy unto HIM, just like the tithe of the Law. YOUR standard is that if God said it was holy unto him, then it will always by holy and bonding until Christ returns. That IS your standard.

[32] Upon man's flesh shall it not be poured, neither shall ye make any other like it, after the composition of it: it is holy, and it shall be holy unto you. [33] Whosoever compoundeth any like it, or whosoever putteth any of it upon a stranger, shall even be cut off from his people. [34] And the Lord said unto Moses, Take unto thee sweet spices, stacte, and onycha, and galbanum; these sweet spices with pure frankincense: of each shall there be a like weight : [35] And thou shalt make it a perfume, a confection after the art of the apothecary, tempered together, pure and holy: [36] And thou shalt beat some of it very small, and put of it before the testimony in the tabernacle of the congregation, where I will meet with thee: it shall be unto you most holy. [37] And as for the perfume which thou shalt make, ye shall not make to yourselves according to the composition thereof: it shall be unto thee holy for the Lord . [38] Whosoever shall make like unto that, to smell thereto, shall even be cut off from his people."

Not life or death cut off from his people.

And if we are cut off from God's people, we are no longer his people. Thus it is life and death.

The scripture again says "it shall be holy unto you." The tenth is holy unto the Lord.

Read it again, brother. God said in verse 31 it is holy unto HIM first. Certainly that which is holy to him will be holy to us. Are you really this weak hermeneutically? Have you know shame? Is that not that tithe you give holy to you as well as God? This is outrageous! I cannot believe what I'm reading.

Since we don't know what all this stuff is, and getting it wrong is despicable by God, we shouldn't do it. But we all know what increase is, and all of us receive it.

But that does not stop you from giving a tithe that is not food products from the land of Israel. That is the only increase he will accept. You'd better become an Israeli farmer. You DO know where that stuff is but you give him something else instead. And since God obviously wants you to make this oil, then your pathetic excuse holds no weight with the Almighty. . Is he not worthy of your due diligence to go find "that stuff"? But since you take liberties with the specifics of God's commands concerning tithing, why not just do the same with this oil! I'm sure God will accept Quaker State 10W40 as a replacement! Get with the program. You will be bound by the very standard you make. Your double minded, forked-tongue, shape shifting theology is a JOKE!!

And to think you attack Trinitarians over mischaracterizing Matthew 28:19! Are you SERIOUS?!

That felt good.

Originalist · #**302** 04-20-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo

i paused the teaching by bro greg riggen because i want to make sure that i make plain that i was very, very, foolish-- incredibly foolish, to call him a liar. Even if i disagree with him, it doesn't mean he is a liar-- it just means we disagree.

I was wrong. I was very, very foolish, incredibly foolish, to call brother greg riggen a liar. I hope this plainly corrects my error and i wish the admins would delete what i said becasue i don't want my foolish statement attached to his name.

Don't be too hard on yourself. A Mormon might not be "lying" either. But they are still deceived.

Evang.Benincasa · #**303** 04-20-2018, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

BBAAHHAA!! OK I give!! No more Baaker!!

Here is just a sample if anything doesn't stay on course.

Originalist · #**304** 04-20-2018, 07:23 PM

We need a hermeneutical drill instructor like that guy in Full-Metal Jacket for struggling brothers like 1ofthechosen and Pastor Riggen.

1ofthechosen · #**305** 04-20-2018, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist

That felt good.

Your argument is a joke. Honestly you are saying all of this out of bad intentions. You don't want to give just tell the truth. You have to get the Spirit of the law not just the letter.

Originalist · #**306** 04-20-2018, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Your argument is a joke. Honestly you are saying all of this out of bad intentions. You don't want to give just tell the truth. You have to get the Spirit of the law not just the letter.

My argument is hermeneutical, something you have no clue about. You are of the same spirit as Lucifer. The precious word of God is nothing to you but cheap clay that you will, without hesitation, morph and mold to fit an idolatrous doctrine that cannot stand on its own merits scripturally. Bow down before your golden calf.

Brothers, just ignore this guy. You mean well, but he is not teachable.

Titus 3:10 admonished us....

A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject

This goes beyond just bad teaching. This strikes at the very heart of the laws of biblical interpretation. When exposed, he can only accuse the one exposing him of not wanting to give. This goes for Riggen, too. God help the UPCI.