If you can't prove you are right, it is logically* equivalent to not knowing you are right. Believe? Sure. Know? No. Sorry.
* - With real logic, that is. Not the logic of faith, which "works" for any belief. Literally.
Just because logic of faith works with any belief system does not mean the true belief system does not require it.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Most forms of fulfilled eschatology/preterism are not well received in pentecostal culture.
Actually only one smaller form of pentecostal culture, that we are all familiar with more than the others, does not receive it well.
I always laughed at how odd this fact is. I honestly think part of this is due to a KINGDOM slant that preterism has. Organization and Kingdom cannot mix. A person who wants to convert the world to their organization will not fit well with Kingdom concepts that care less about what fellowship a church is with.
The fact is that there are people high up in the most familiar fellowship we know in this forum who believe British/Israelism and other weird beliefs. But I was told they did not speak about it. You can believe anything so long as you do not speak about it to others. And it really was not the speaking of preterism that made it "illegal", but rather the manner of some who started splitting churches over it and causing a stir. The district in which I ministered when I saw this viewpoint knew I was not a trouble-maker, and from the top on down, the leadership there did not mind my view. The dist supt. knew my view and said he had no problem with me being on the board and ministering in the fellowship in that district. I was on the district board and my position was known. But some in other districts, especially from so-called "laity", purposely pushed it without regard to ethics. And I hear that is where the problem started and they banned it.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Actually only one smaller form of pentecostal culture, that we are all familiar with more than the others, does not receive it well.
I always laughed at how odd this fact is. I honestly think part of this is due to a KINGDOM slant that preterism has. Organization and Kingdom cannot mix. A person who wants to convert the world to their organization will not fit well with Kingdom concepts that care less about what fellowship a church is with.
The fact is that there are people high up in the most familiar fellowship we know in this forum who believe British/Israelism and other weird beliefs. But I was told they did not speak about it. You can believe anything so long as you do not speak about it to others. And it really was not the speaking of preterism that made it "illegal", but rather the manner of some who started splitting churches over it and causing a stir. The district in which I ministered when I saw this viewpoint knew I was not a trouble-maker, and from the top on down, the leadership there did not mind my view. The dist supt. knew my view and said he had no problem with me being on the board and ministering in the fellowship in that district. I was on the district board and my position was known. But some in other districts, especially from so-called "laity", purposely pushed it without regard to ethics. And I hear that is where the problem started and they banned it.
I agree wholeheartedly
__________________ If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend. Therein is a drop of honey that catches his heart...
Abraham Lincoln
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29
1 Peter 4:7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.
8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
1) What convinces you that the end is at hand or that there is an end?
2) And if you are convinced there is an "end", are you living like there is an end?
1) Brother Baxter just said on the radio that the Turks are organizing a huge Muslim army right now to destroy Israeli. This is right out of the Bible. The end is NOW near nearer then it ever has been before.
2) I have dumped plenty of garbage into the trash can from around the house (DVDs, CDs, my boy friend, clothing, food, beer, drugs, playing cards, porn) and have completely changed over night.
If you believe you live any different the closer we get then you are not really saved.
Eight years, sixteen pages and 157 posts later, maybe the end really ISN'T at hand...
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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