Reaping What You Sow After You Come to God

[TalkLady]

The Bible says when we come to God we are a new creature and all things become new. Scriptures also says He puts our sins as far as the east is from the west. Preacher where I attended church said we keep reaping for sins we committed in the world and any we commit after starting to church and receiving the Holy Ghost. I pray daily and work at dying daily. I strive not to sin but I am not going to say I never sin. I have the Holy Ghost and have repented and baptized believe Acts 2:38. Please weigh in on this. Give Scripture. I understand as if a woman gets pregnant before she comes to God, there is the stigma attached to that. I have never done that. After his sermon, I feel anxious. Sin should not abound so that Grace may abound. However, do we reap all the seeds sown in sin after we give our lives to God? Such a discouraging sermon.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by TalkLady

The Bible says when we come to God we are a new creature and all things become new. Scriptures also says He puts our sins as far as the east is from the west. Preacher where I attended church said we keep reaping for sins we committed in the world and any we commit after starting to church and receiving the Holy Ghost. I pray daily and work at dying daily. I strive not to sin but I am not going to say I never sin. I have the Holy Ghost and have repented and baptized believe Acts 2:38. Please weigh in on this. Give Scripture. I understand as if a woman gets pregnant before she comes to God, there is the stigma attached to that. I have never done that. After his sermon, I feel anxious. Sin should not abound so that Grace may abound. However, do we reap all the seeds sown in sin after we give our lives to God? Such a discouraging sermon.

If that was the case, Jesus would have had the woman caught in adultry stoned after He forgave her.

[houston]

There are consequences to the choices that we make. Some things do carry over. It doesn’t mean that you’re not forgiven. Men in prison get saved- yet they remain behind bars for decisions that they made prior.

Welcome back after 5 years.

[TalkLady]

I am asking about the sewing and reaping from the perspective of Jesus Christ to His church. I do understand what you are saying about a criminal “paying a debt” to society for a crime. This doctrine seems so discouraging and defeatist.

Thanks for the welcome back!

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by TalkLady

The Bible says when we come to God we are a new creature and all things become new. Scriptures also says He puts our sins as far as the east is from the west. Preacher where I attended church said we keep reaping for sins we committed in the world and any we commit after starting to church and receiving the Holy Ghost. I pray daily and work at dying daily. I strive not to sin but I am not going to say I never sin. I have the Holy Ghost and have repented and baptized believe Acts 2:38. Please weigh in on this. Give Scripture. I understand as if a woman gets pregnant before she comes to God, there is the stigma attached to that. I have never done that. After his sermon, I feel anxious. Sin should not abound so that Grace may abound. However, do we reap all the seeds sown in sin after we give our lives to God? Such a discouraging sermon.

When a person comes to God everything changes.
God turns what was evil in that person's life to good.
although a situation may still be the same, it is really not, because it is now a different person in the same situation.

A person born again is a new creation, so the situation is really irrelevant for God will turn it for good somehow.

The person who was to reap what you sow was a different person, not the same person at all. that old person has died and there is now a new person.
So no you do not sow in your present life what you sowed in a prior unsaved condition.

When you are a new born person you start at zero, with nothing from your past.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by TalkLady

I am asking about the sewing and reaping from the perspective of Jesus Christ to His church. I do understand what you are saying about a criminal “paying a debt” to society for a crime. This doctrine seems so discouraging and defeatist.

Thanks for the welcome back!

I think the easiest way to explain it, would be that there are perhaps earthly consequences to sin, but no eternal consequences for sin that is repented of. While our sins are under the blood of Jesus, there may still be earthly consequences for our sins (thinking of David and Bathsheba) while eternal forgiveness is still given, but then there is the grace and mercy of Jesus that can always turn what the enemy intended for evil in our lives, to good here on earth.

[TalkLady]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

When a person comes to God everything changes.
God turns what was evil in that person's life to good.
although a situation may still be the same, it is really not, because it is now a different person in the same situation.

A person born again is a new creation, so the situation is really irrelevant for God will turn it for good somehow.

The person who was to reap what you sow was a different person, not the same person at all. that old person has died and there is now a new person.
So no you do not sow in your present life what you sowed in a prior unsaved condition.

When you are a new born person you start at zero, with nothing from your past.

I wish I could believe this! Pray I can. It is too much of a burden to feel God is still holding all my sins over me. If I understood the pastor, he said when something goes wrong in his life, he remembers back to things he did before he got in church and understands “why” the bad things happen. That was like a slap in the face to how I felt my experience with God is. I felt a near panic attack and nauseated. I actually had to get up and go to the restroom with a sickening, shaky feeling. I feel he needs prayer to understand more about the grace of God. “Who the Son has set free is free indeed.” Maybe I misunderstood him but I understood it as I am explaining. I am not posting anything to berate him. I’m confused and want Scripture to back up my belief or please show me if I am wrong by giving me Scripture. I will always keep this anonymous.

[Amanah]

As a loving parent, when your children make mistakes and fail, you use their mistakes to teach them and help them grow, but you protect them and care for them and work to make their lives better.

We can't escape all of the consequences of our choices.

But we can be assured that God is a loving Father. And he will make everything work out for our good.

We must trust in God, and trust that all things are working for our good. (Romans 8:28)

You have a promise from God that if you seek him he will reward you.

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. (Hebrews 11:6)

If you trust God and take your anxiety to Him, he will give you peace.

Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:6-7)

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by TalkLady

I wish I could believe this! Pray I can. It is too much of a burden to feel God is still holding all my sins over me. If I understood the pastor, he said when something goes wrong in his life, he remembers back to things he did before he got in church and understands “why” the bad things happen. That was like a slap in the face to how I felt my experience with God is. I felt a near panic attack and nauseated. I actually had to get up and go to the restroom with a sickening, shaky feeling. I feel he needs prayer to understand more about the grace of God. “Who the Son has set free is free indeed.” Maybe I misunderstood him but I understood it as I am explaining. I am not posting anything to berate him. I’m confused and want Scripture to back up my belief or please show me if I am wrong by giving me Scripture. I will always keep this anonymous.

I'd have to hear the sermon myself to fairly judge. Is there a website where the message will be posted? Based on what you are telling me, I think he is taking this a bit far.

[houston]

Originally Posted by TalkLady

I am asking about the sewing and reaping from the perspective of Jesus Christ to His church. I do understand what you are saying about a criminal “paying a debt” to society for a crime. This doctrine seems so discouraging and defeatist.

Thanks for the welcome back!

Then I would say see Jedi’s post