Do Ultra Conservatives Do more to Keep Folks out of Heaven then to Let Them In???

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

I disagree with this one. Sinners don't know they even have a need for the Savior (the only need that eternally matters). Further, it's not our job to draw people toward God: Jesus said that no one would come to Him unless the FATHER draws them. We show them the love of God by showing them their sinful state and their need for salvation and then warning them of the danger they face if they do not heed God's command for everyone to repent. We show them the love of God by showing them that they are enemies of God and communicating to them God's offer of reconciliation.

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wow...Keith Green? Is he still alive? Thanks Chancellor. How did you find this website?

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

wow...Keith Green? Is he still alive? Thanks Chancellor. How did you find this website?

No he died in `1980 or 82 I think. His wife has carried on his memory and continues to market his old products.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

wow...Keith Green? Is he still alive? Thanks Chancellor. How did you find this website?

He died in 1982; his wife carries on the work of Last Days Ministries.

Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker

I maintain we win no one if all we do is condemn...I was won by love and example...not a bible study that told me I would go to hell!

It is not we who condemn but their own consciences that condemn. We offer the message of reconciliation. Besides, I think you're confusing condemnation with conviction. The Spirit of God uses the law of God to convict sinners of their sin and to show them their guilt and hopeless state. Once they are in that place, they can see their need for the Savior and can come to the place of repentance. If anyone gets saved through a message of "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life" or any other such message that does not show the sinner his utterly lost state, such a person gets saved in spite of the message, not because of it.

Originally Posted by Mike Williamson

Or, you could filter out the misspelling and read the original question like this:

Do ultraconservatives do more to keep folks out of Heaven thAn to let them in?

That would require me to read into the post (something I object to when people do it to my posts). I expect people to say what they mean and mean what they say.

I like Steak. You like Pork Chops. I do not eat Pork because it is nasty. We will both die due to high cholesterol. Why fight about which meat you do or I don't eat. Let's all eat steak because only the steak eaters are going to heaven. <- That is what some of this bickering sounds like to me-> Fighting for no cause.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by hammondb3klingon1

I like Steak. You like Pork Chops. I do not eat Pork because it is nasty. We will both die due to high cholesterol. Why fight about which meat you do or I don't eat. Let's all eat steak because only the steak eaters are going to heaven. <- That is what some of this bickering sounds like to me-> Fighting for no cause.

The problem my friend is that some will say God told them to eat only steak and forsake pork chops, and further that those who eat the other white meat are sinners and part of Egypt. Others will say their interpretation of the word and divine revelation indicates they are to be separate and only to eat Salmon and the steak and pork eaters are not in the bride.

This is the fodder of religious wars from the beginning of time, I don't think we are going to be able to solve it here.

We are only witnessing a microcosm.