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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It didn't take much to know the signs.

And if a preacher clearly tells a struggling vet NOT to seek help, are they not partially responsible if that vet ends up harming themselves or others as a result of their PTSD?

Where's the case law?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It didn't take much to know the signs.

And if a preacher clearly tells a struggling vet NOT to seek help, are they not partially responsible if that vet ends up harming themselves or others as a result of their PTSD?

How is telling them to seek Jesus not telling them to seek help?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That is why we need way more evidence. We just don't take one's person's word for it. We take all the information and objectively draw a conclusion. This forum from its conception even way back to FCF, had its share of haters. They really bloomed after Brother Yohe started to change the gears. A lot of cool Apostolics left this forum, ministers and laity, like a ship leaving an Island of a Zombie Apocalypse. Some things that get posted here make me think "what kind of church did these people go to?" Yet, one must keep in mind their are many sides to a story Hence the reason why at times I'll ask questions of someone claim that they had Jim Jones as a pastor, or that their old Pentecostal church was the one in Children of the Corn. While I had some bad hits in church, I personally know people in other religious movements and religions who would scare the hair off your head with their testimonies.

So like you said in your first statement which is totally correct, it is the human experience. A man's perception is his reality, and every man's burden is the heaviest. Yet, when people get injured in any situation, they not only leave their situations, but tend to campaign against what they were once a part of. Those who experienced the very same thing but don't see the Emperor fully clothed as you all do, get told we are wrong. If we happen to be ministers then we are accused of having too much skin in the game and protecting fellow ministers.

You might be surprised, but I fully agree with almost everything you said here. I might moan and groan about the legalism of my past church, but you're right. I've heard far worse stories come out of the JWs and others.

And we can be hard on pastors, sometimes too hard. But ultimately they are responsible for any fallout of their words. I know a pastor who actually told a terrified woman fearing for her life that she couldn't leave her abusive husband, and that if she'd just submit to Jesus, and be an ideal wife, God would move in her home. Her husband killed her not even a week later. If I were her family, I'd have sued the daylights out of that pastor, and the church, and even the district for licensing him, if I could. The man was clearly so Bible minded he's of no value in the real world.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

How is telling them to seek Jesus not telling them to seek help?

Amazing!

Aquila do you actually believe in the supernatural transforming power of the Holy Ghost?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Where's the case law?

I'm no expert on the legalities, but I believe if I were a pastor, I'd be more concerned with God holding me negligent.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You might be surprised, but I fully agree with almost everything you said here. I might moan and groan about the legalism of my past church, but you're right. I've heard far worse stories come out of the JWs and others.

And we can be hard on pastors, sometimes too hard. But ultimately they are responsible for any fallout of their words. I know a pastor who actually told a terrified woman fearing for her life that she couldn't leave her abusive husband, and that if she'd just submit to Jesus, and be an ideal wife, God would move in her home. Her husband killed her not even a week later. If I were her family, I'd have sued the daylights out of that pastor, and the church, and even the district for licensing him, if I could. The man was clearly so Bible minded he's of no value in the real world.

That's at least a start. What's her name? Where and when was she killed? I look up the police report. Also the trial of her husband.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Where did you get shot in the chest?

Answer the question, tough guy. Lol

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm no expert on the legalities, but I believe if I were a pastor, I'd be more concerned with God holding me negligent.

Wait, I'm not understanding you know. You made the statement that the pastor could have legal problems. Other posters understood that was your focus. Listen bro, we all will give an account for every idle word. So, that is a no brainer. Sadly those who cry for God to bring vengeance on others never think about turning the same judgement on themselves.

Contemplate this on the tree of woe

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Answer the question, tough guy. Lol

?

I'm asking you the question.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think they would have unleashed the healing power of God and healed the vet instantly. But most preachers today don't have that kind of faith or power. They just have opinions and attitudes, couched in religious platitudes, that they lob at people from their ivory towers.