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Old 05-21-2017, 09:00 PM
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Gabby Hayes had whiskers. Lenin had a beard!
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 05-21-2017, 09:02 PM
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Gabby Hayes had whiskers. Lenin had a beard!
And Choo Choo Charlie was an engineer.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:18 PM
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The Bible has no prohibition against facial hair and no prohibition against shaving off a facial hair. Not one verse telling men they are an abomination for not having a beard or having a beard. This and the Deuteronomy 22:5 thread are like comparing lemons and bowling balls.

Now that consapente89 mentioned some who God told them to call on Norelco. I have a few stories one has to do with a Cuban brother of mine who had the biggest moustache. We were in prayer meeting and he was hit hard with the Holy Ghost. Power of God was all over him (if you don't know what I'm talking about then go to an Apostolic church and find out) we had a great prayer meeting. The next time I saw him he was clean shaven. Personally I was shocked, I looked at my wife and her eyes were as big as Kennedy half a dollars. I asked him what happened? Where was the cookie duster? He told me without blinking an eye, and told me Jesus dealt with it in the prayer meeting. Now I was puzzled because there isn't a prohibition against facial hair nor is their an admonition to have facial hair. So, I mentioned this to my pastor, and some other elders.

The issue that this brother had, had little to do with the moustache. But with pride concerning the moustache. I remember we were in a Bible study years before this event. The Bible study was about forgiveness, and self sacrifice. Well, this brother leaped up and told everyone that he would NEVER shave off his lip cover. All 50 of us looked at him and shrugged our shoulders, with Mr Spock puzzled looks. He then proclaimed "my moustache is ME man!"


I remember a older sister replying to him "well that so sweet, why don't you sit down and join us"

So many things happen to us personally on so many levels when we allow the conviction of Jesus Christ to deal with us. Jesus is our pastor and He knows how to get the job done. I'm not called to go 500 pages with Aquila, to me it is like having a comic book collection, or Hot Wheels collection or even coins. It is somewhat relaxing to a point. But you always have to keep in mind that the person you are going round and round the mulberry bush with, is not going to change their position. They're convinced, signed, sealed, and delivered.

Only Jesus can change a heart, or close it shut. I just call'em like I see'em. Someone believes Deuteronomy 22:5 is about a pagan religious ceremony? Who am I to change their mind, they have far more bigger fish to fry in their skillet then if a woman can wear a pair of seal skin pants.

2017 we are heading towards 2018. This place is sinking like proverbial Atlantis. The amount of perversion is rolling its tentacles around the throat of Christendom of this country. I will never forget the time Pastor Keith McCann made a statement which went like this, "the Russian Orthodox clergy were arguing about the length of tassels on their robes. When the Communists took over the country" At that point I realized that the amount of Christians on these forums who really care are slim to none. Flamethrowing red hot Holy Ghost services are cooling down. Prayer rooms have more brooms, buckets, then weeping and snotting. Had an amazing service today, troubled teens getting blessed by the move of the Holy Ghost. Maybe one will catch a vision and go forward. My main scope of work is my city and county. If I can help my brothers around the country or around the world. But as far as forum crusading goes we just post what we believe and fly it up the flagpole. If it gets a thumbs up then hip hip hooray. If it gets attacked then on with the show. But when all is said and done we will all have to give an account for everything we have done. If we were a help or a hindrance.

Transgender United States of America and we go 600 posts on Deuteronomy 22:5. Good God from Zion.

We did more than blow the engine on this one.
Thank you for posting this. It helped me put things back in perspective.

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Old 05-21-2017, 10:30 PM
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The there is no law for or against beards for the NT Christian.

But I say unto you, there are two kinds of people in this world, those with beards...and women. Lol
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:33 PM
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Re: More On Beards

I shaved my beard but it was not out of religious conviction, my beard simply made me look like some wild eyed crazy guy. It simply did not fitted me, so no I am not against beards even though I shave every morning.

I am simply against men wearing beards that are unkempt or simply do not look good.
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Old 05-22-2017, 05:52 AM
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I thought God spoke to you and told you to shave? I thought God told you to shave and that if you didn't you were rebelling against him?? So why the change of position?
That's right. God told me to shave and that is a PERSONAL conviction and I do shave.

I'm NOT in rebellion or seeking excuses to step outside of what God has commanded me to do.

My issue is the reasoning and logic used to preach against facial hair.

@Benincasa love your comment bro and with I could have been at that prayer meeting.

Sorry my post is a bit disjointed...long night.

The reasons other than personal conviction that I've seen for facial hair=sin...many not all seem to have little or nothing to do with scripture*except for the example given about the brother in blatently pride*

No, I'm not on any kind of crusade. With all the wet blankets and weirdos on here anything attempted to be started on here would be extenguished, smothered, picked apart, murdered from the starting line.

I've seen some of the same hateful trolling argumentative attitudes amongst other groups out on the world and it kinda saddens me to see it on display here...yeah yeah I know...you have your "reasons" and you consider yourselves as though you're mocking the modern day prophets of Ba'al, but they are your brothers, they may have different views and they may be off on the other side of the spectrum from you, but they're still all our brothers...you're all my brothers and my sisters and while the bombs and insults continue to be thrown, and you bask in your superior skills of arguing, projection and gaslighting, while you may win your argument, you are losing your brother.

Proverbs says,"A brother who is offended is harder to win than a fortified city."

If your brother is indeed taken in a fall, restore him, minister in reconciliation because he has gifts, talents, annointing that the body needs.

The only reason I'm tempted to harp on beards is the cultural attack against masculinity and the ever increasingly popular view that there are over 67 genders and for all the silly things we have used to justify preaching against facial hair*Well Disney doesn't allow beards...The homosexual wears the beard"

We have a serious attack rising up against our people and culture that the church is about to have a rude awakening with and we are going to have to cling to an anchor of Truth... real Truth and not one crafted of personal preference.


Blame this on insomnia and a upset stomach.

Bless you and may your bacon forever increase. Amen
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That's right. God told me to shave and that is a PERSONAL conviction and I do shave.

. . .

Bless you and may your bacon forever increase. Amen
I'm not saying this is the case for you Brother, I think in might be true in some cases.

I think sometimes when we feel we are having a personal conviction about something, it is actually peer pressure and wanting to be in agreement with our brethren rather than an actual person conviction.

Therefore a tender sincere hearted person might feel they are having a personal conviction from God about shaving or something else because they want to be obedient to their elders, and then later, after study and scrutiny of the issue, they may find that is wasn't a personal conviction at all.

They may then still continue the practice to be in agreement with the brethren even though they might not personally agree.
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Old 05-22-2017, 06:46 AM
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In the Evangelical Apex Network of Community churches (house churches) over the past six months God has spoken to a number of people. We saw that 2 were called by God to the mission field, 7 were called to commit to helping hands ministry in the local food bank and homeless shelters, 4 couples felt God call them to adopt.

Among Apostolics, I typically hear about God calling people to do things regarding beards, pants, makeup, jewelry, and stuff like that.

Am I missing something?
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Old 05-22-2017, 07:22 AM
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The there is no law for or against beards for the NT Christian.

But I say unto you,
there are two kinds of people in this world, those with beards...and women.
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