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Old 05-20-2017, 01:42 PM
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Bible chapter and verse please. The three Hebrews in Daniel were captives and were wearing Babylonian trousers which were common in Babylon.
Aquila, you posted that Deuteronomy 22:5 was a prohibition against pagan crossdressing. Then you said Deuteronomy 22:5 prohibition was against mixing garment length. Now you are arguing that Hebrews who wouldn't eat pagan foods would now come against a prohibition against pagan dress? Deuteronomy 22:5 is a prohibition against men dressing like women, and women dressing like men. The history and the Bible is against you.




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Archeology. Pants were imported from other cultures.
Did they dig up the FED X scroll? Pants were male attire, plain and simple. History? Even Christendom proves this out. Hundreds of years of females wearing dresses, and men wearing pants. Joan of Arc wasn't burned at the stake for hearing voices, but because she was dressed as a male.
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The prohibition in Deuteronomy is debated among scholars. Some have pointed out that the language indicates that women shouldn't dawn the attire of a warrior nor men the soft and long lady like attire and jewellery of women. Some argue that this also would forbid ancient Canaanite practices that included cult cross dressing. Most likely, all of these views have some truth to them.

Pants are nowhere in view seeing that neither male or female wore trousers in ancient Israel. Pants are a multicultural innovation from nations that typically had colder winter seasons. In those cultures, they were often worn by both men and women.

Study:

Persia
China
Mongolia
Cythian Russia
Scandinavian Nations
Celts
Inuit
Eskimos

Pants inundated these cultures and were worn by both men and women. So, from those nations that created pants and wore them, they were not strictly for males.

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Old 05-20-2017, 01:52 PM
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I challenge the readers to look up the attire of ancient Israel. There wasn't much difference between male and female articles of clothing. What few differences they had were in relation to length, softer fabrics for women, and women wore more colorful attire. Israelite women also wore traditional jewelry and veils.

Those who would argue that Israelite men wore trousers are often the same preachers who argue that Jesus never wore a beard.

Look it up, yourself. Don't believe either of us, verify it yourself.
Challenge the readers? Pilny did a magnificent job as well as Esaias of supplying ample amounts of proof concerning this subject. Yet, this isn't really about information, research, or even having Jesus Christ Himself come down and grab you by your head to tell you that only men wore pants. Because as we can plainly see, people like you don't want proof, we could open our veins and bleed to death proving our case. Yet, you (and those like you) would discount the rivers of blood. No, no my boy, you see you live in your own private Idaho, where everything is dictated by the world around you. Were we talking about beards? Did we ever mention one word about beards? Are you getting upset because you completely ran out of road?
No more kilts? No more eskimos wearing seal skins? Bro, there isn't a prohibition against beards or a command for beards. But we have clear scripture that if a woman dresses like a man she is an abomination and visa versa.
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The prohibition in Deuteronomy is debated among scholars. Some have pointed out that the language indicates that women shouldn't dawn the attire of a warrior nor men the soft and long lady like attire and jewellery of women. Some argue that this also would forbid ancient Canaanite practices. That included cult cross dressing. Most likely, all of these views have some truth to them.
Canaanite cult practices were bad, but Babylonian were OK? So much for that logic. Also again we have clear scripture that men wore bifurcated garments but no women wearing them. Also most scholars (whose artist's renditions you supplied for us) really don't know how these people dressed. Following down long and loose is found in 1 Timothy 2:9-10 the Greek καταστολῇ. Which was a gown, and men NEVER wore them? Yet, καταστολῇ isn't a robe? Why is that Aquila? Tell me why?

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Pants are nowhere in view seeing that neither male or female wore trousers in ancient Israel.
They did in Daniel, and Jesus in Revelation 19:16.

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Pants are a multicultural innovation from nations that typically had colder winter seasons.
Like Israel.

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In those cultures, they were often worn by both men and women.
One verse for a woman wearing trousers, or breeches.
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There are two kinds of people in this world. Those with beards...and women. How can you worship Jesus looking like a smooth faced gay Roman? Lol

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You're an idiot. Canaanite custom was ritual cross dressing. In Babylon, and Persia by the way, pants were just customary attire. No ritual cross dressing involved.
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Daniel verse, typical attire in Babylon.

High Priest, breeches. Boxer like attire worn under the robe.

Thus these verses prove NOTHING in this debate.
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The prohibition in Deuteronomy is debated among scholars. Some have pointed out that the language indicates that women shouldn't dawn the attire of a warrior nor men the soft and long lady like attire and jewellery of women. Some argue that this also would forbid ancient Canaanite practices that included cult cross dressing. Most likely, all of these views have some truth to them.

Pants are nowhere in view seeing that neither male or female wore trousers in ancient Israel. Pants are a multicultural innovation from nations that typically had colder winter seasons. In those cultures, they were often worn by both men and women.

Study:

Persia
China
Mongolia
Cythian Russia
Scandinavian Nations
Celts
Inuit
Eskimos

Pants inundated these cultures and were worn by both men and women. So, from those nations that created pants and wore them, they were not strictly for males.
You and the eskimos? Where in God's name do we have eskimos in covenant with God of the Old Testament? Was any of the law binding on Celts, or Russians during the Bronze Age? Where were the Eskimos during the Bronze Age? Were they even in the Americas? Aquila do you even have the slightest idea what on earth we are talking about in this thread? Do you understand the Bible has a prohibition against crossdressing for the Nation of Israel, and those who would be engrafted into them? Just like a prohibition against human sacrifice! Would you also like to list all the groups who sacrificed their newborn children? Aquila, men wore pants, women didn't. Easy to understand because the Bible is easy to understand.
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You're an idiot. Canaanite custom was ritual cross dressing. In Babylon, and Persia by the way, pants were just customary attire. No ritual cross dressing involved.
Really? Where does the Bible explain all that? Bro, now you are modifying your statement to include religious practices of crossdressing? So, you can crossdress if it wasn't pertaining to pagan religion? What?
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You and the eskimos? Where in God's name do we have eskimos in covenant with God of the Old Testament? Was any of the law binding on Celts, or Russians during the Bronze Age? Where were the Eskimos during the Bronze Age? Were they even in the Americas? Aquila do you even have the slightest idea what on earth we are talking about in this thread? Do you understand the Bible has a prohibition against crossdressing for the Nation of Israel, and those who would be engrafted into them? Just like a prohibition against human sacrifice! Would you also like to list all the groups who sacrificed their newborn children? Aquila, men wore pants, women didn't. Easy to understand because the Bible is easy to understand.
Blah, blah, blah. The very cultures that created pants didn't create them strictly for men. They were always worn by both men and women in those cultures.

The rabbinical foolishness about pants and women is just Jewish legalism that arose as the use of pants began among Jews in the Middle Ages.

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