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05-15-2017, 07:14 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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if you cut a woman's breasts and hair off and give her male hormones and a prosthesis and she calls herself a man, is she a man?
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This isn't rocket science. I asked a "yes or no" question. I'll ask it yet again.
Are lady's Jordache jeans men's attire? Yes or no?
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05-15-2017, 07:25 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
yes, they are men's attire
http://faithsaves.net/deuteronomy-22-5/
What gender distinction has been designed to replace the skirt on the woman? There is none. Certainly there are various articles that are more typically female, and some colors that are rarely worn by men but most often by women. If the command was only to distinguish men from women, not to have distinct garments, some of this discussion would be rendered insignificant, but that is not what the Deuteronomy 22:5 teaches. The designed difference has been removed and not replaced. Some have contended that men’s and women’s pants are different. However, about the only difference is that women’s pants are usually tighter to draw the attention of men to parts of their body that they should not be thinking about, and they don’t have a zipper. Tight pants on women do not bode well as an argument for women’s pants among those desirous of godly living. The real truth about this “difference between pants” argument is that it is not an argument, but a vindication in hindsight for those who wish to justify a desired behavior.
One cannot tell the difference from the distance beyond the visibility of the store label. Pants, which pertained to men alone, began to be worn by women between 1880 to 1920 in this country.[xxi] At the time, the point was to eliminate the distinction. Churches argued against it for the Scriptural reasons advocated in this chapter. If there were a designed difference between male and female pants, one would be hard pressed to know what it was (color? placement of zipper? (Should we be looking at where the zipper is?) There is no designed difference between pants that men and women wear.
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05-15-2017, 08:12 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
My feelings aren't hurt but I can see where you're coming from. I used to frequent this forum daily and enjoyed the time spent but not so much anymore. It has become too easy to toss off barbed quips and comments because the person addressed is not physically present. Words are written that would probably never be spoken as one Christian to another if sitting across a dining table enjoying that fellowship. Some, on here, feel they have to address every posting and do it with overbearing vim and vigor. [ You know who you are! ]
I'm likely old enough to be a dad to many of you and probably a grandpa to some and I get treated very well by my children, grandchildren, and yes, great-grandchildren. Why would I come on here anymore and be disrespected by someone who doesn't really know me? No matter if we disagree let's show a little more civility, manners and Christ- likeness!
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05-15-2017, 08:15 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by Amanah
yes, they are men's attire
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Would you object to your husband wearing a pair? Why or why not?
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05-15-2017, 08:18 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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yes, they are men's attire
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So, you'd be okay with men wearing lady's Jordache jeans!
Last edited by Aquila; 05-15-2017 at 08:22 AM.
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05-15-2017, 08:19 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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My feelings aren't hurt but I can see where you're coming from. I used to frequent this forum daily and enjoyed the time spent but not so much anymore. It has become too easy to toss off barbed quips and comments because the person addressed is not physically present. Words are written that would probably never be spoken as one Christian to another if sitting across a dining table enjoying that fellowship. Some, on here, feel they have to address every posting and do it with overbearing vim and vigor. [ You know who you are! ]
I'm likely old enough to be a dad to many of you and probably a grandpa to some and I get treated very well by my children, grandchildren, and yes, great-grandchildren. Why would I come on here anymore and be disrespected by someone who doesn't really know me? No matter if we disagree let's show a little more civility, manners and Christ- likeness!
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05-15-2017, 08:24 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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05-15-2017, 08:29 AM
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05-15-2017, 08:33 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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Originally Posted by Aquila
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she is very cute, I would just change the pants for a skirt . . .
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05-15-2017, 08:38 AM
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Re: More on Skirts
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However, about the only difference is that women’s pants are usually tighter to draw the attention of men to parts of their body that they should not be thinking about, and they don’t have a zipper. Tight pants on women do not bode well as an argument for women’s pants among those desirous of godly living. The real truth about this “difference between pants” argument is that it is not an argument, but a vindication in hindsight for those who wish to justify a desired behavior.
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Oh, I agree to an extent. I've seen pants that were far too tight on women.
But... I'm going to be blunt here. I pray you understand me, because if I candy coat it, I don't think you'll really get the full impact of what I'm saying.
Frankly, a woman in a dress or skirt is a far greater turn on than a woman in pants because it's "easy access". Having been in the Army, a woman with a dress or skirt is far more likely to flat-back than one wearing jeans. If she smokes, your chances are nearly 80%.
That's just been my experience.
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