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Old 08-07-2016, 12:10 AM
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Christ and salvation in the Old Covenant worship

According to Exodus and Hebrews, the Old Covenant system of worship was a physical representation of Heavenly realities. Thought I'd start a thread to get people's input on this subject.

There were several components of OC worship: The Tabernacle (later, the Temple); The Priesthood; The Offerings; and The Feasts/Appointed Times/Sabbaths.

Pick one of the areas and share what you know how they teach us about Christ, His Gospel, His Kingdom, His Salvation.
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Re: Christ and salvation in the Old Covenant worsh

[QUOTE=Esaias;1442966]According to Exodus and Hebrews, the Old Covenant system of worship was a physical representation of Heavenly realities. Thought I'd start a thread to get people's input on this subject.

There were several components of OC worship: The Tabernacle (later, the Temple); The Priesthood; The Offerings; and The Feasts/Appointed Times/Sabbaths.

Pick one of the areas and share what you know how they teach us about Christ, His Gospel, His Kingdom, His Salvation.[/QUOTE

How bout we start with one from the father of the old covenant?

In the 22nd chapter of Genesis, Abraham’s love and faith are severely tested. God tells him to take his only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, to Mount Moriah, there to offer him as a burnt sacrifice. Boy, wouldn’t Family and Children Services have a field day with that case! As the story goes, Abraham obeys God, but Isaac is spared at the last moment. A ram caught in some bushes takes his place on the altar of sacrifice.
Bible scholars have harvested this story for years, finding its deeper significance. Like Jesus, Isaac’s name was foretold before his birth. Like Jesus; Isaac had a miraculous birth, was a willing sacrifice, and carried the wood of his own demise. This again, is Holy Ghost writing…a life thousands of year’s earlier, painting a portrait of our coming Messiah. Such was the life of Isaac. But there is a little bit more to this story.
The first use of the word “love” in the bible is found here in Genesis 22:1. Over 2,000 years of human history have passed, before “love” is introduced. And it is introduced, as father Abraham’s feelings for his son Isaac. Furthermore, Father and son ascended this hill of sacrifice together. But the most beautiful part of this story, is that Isaac never comes down from the mountain. I’m sure that in reality; Isaac descended Mount Moriah with his father Abraham. But in the wisdom of God, our Holy Ghost author chooses to omit this fact from the story. So Abraham returned unto his young men, and they rose up and went together to Beersheba; and Abraham dwelt at Beersheba. No mention made of Isaac coming down the mountain. More remarkable yet, is that Isaac disappears from the pages of scripture. For the remainder of chapter 22, for all of chapter 23, and for all of chapter 24...for 81 verses of scripture...Isaac is gone. During his absence, his mother Sarah dies (chapter 23), and Isaac misses the funeral. While Isaac is missing, Abraham sends a servant, to find a bride for his son. This servant brings Rebecca many precious gifts…assuring her that these are but the earnest of his great master’s wealth. Finally, the next time we see Isaac, is as he meets his bride at the close of chapter 24.
Poetically, Jesus disappeared in the mount thousands of years later. During His absence, Jerusalem was sacked by Nero in 70 AD. Following His disappearance, His Father sent a servant, to call out a bride for His Son. This servant bears many precious gifts, assuring us that they are but the earnest of our inheritance. Finally, the next time we see Jesus, is as He meets His bride at the edge of the field. On one hand, a family story from antiquity. But a child of God, filled with the Holy Ghost, can see what the author was also trying to show us:
• The death of Jesus Christ
• His three days in the grave
• The resurrection and ascension
• The death of Israel in 70 A.D.
• The work of the comforter
• The gifts of the spirit
• Two thousand years of church history
• The second coming
That’s a lot to pack into three short chapters. Only the Holy Ghost can write like this. 2,000 years of church history, 2,000 years before it takes place, crammed into three chapters in Genesis. This is what sets the scriptures apart. This is, the proof in the pudding.
We’ve scarcely looked at a few examples here. Any child of God, full of the Holy Ghost, can prayerfully study the bible and discover thousands more just like these. The Bible is a living book, because its writer is the very author of life.
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Re: Christ and salvation in the Old Covenant worsh

Hard to know where to start since thousands of points can be seen in these picture.
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Here's a little thought.

The veil in the temple and tabernacle had the images of cherubims sewn into it, and this shows the barrier of the Garden of Eden that was blocked by cherubims and the flaming sword.

When Jesus died, the veil ripped. This showed Christ's death and our faith in it as our means of salvation removes the barrier that blocked man from the tree of life. We can enter this place of kingdom again because of the cross. That is why Jesus called this the kingdom of God/heaven.

And we WORSHIP by going past the veil into the presence of God in the holiest, for that is where we need to dwell -- in the secret (veiled to unsaved) place of the most high.
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Here's a little thought.

The veil in the temple and tabernacle had the images of cherubims sewn into it, and this shows the barrier of the Garden of Eden that was blocked by cherubims and the flaming sword.

When Jesus died, the veil ripped. This showed Christ's death and our faith in it as our means of salvation removes the barrier that blocked man from the tree of life. We can enter this place of kingdom again because of the cross. That is why Jesus called this the kingdom of God/heaven.

And we WORSHIP by going past the veil into the presence of God in the holiest, for that is where we need to dwell -- in the secret (veiled to unsaved) place of the most high.
In the veil being torn asunder, it exposed for everyone to see that the Most Holy Place was completely empty. Thus, Christ showed that there was no Presence of God and no Righteousness to be found in the old covenant, one has to be in the new covenant.
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Re: Christ and salvation in the Old Covenant worsh

A good thread... I don't have time to share any of my thoughts, but there are so many, as Bro. Blume already said. I wanted to post so I could get the updates to the discussion here
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It is interesting that the way of the garden of Eden's entrance was facing east. When Adam let, he was cast out eastward. This makes the entrance facing east. The Tabernacle and temple likewise opened toward the east.

GO WEST, YOUNG MAN! ...into God's presence. Like the sun shining from the east to the west.

The glory of God came from the east into the temple in Ezekiel after it left the temple in chapter 11.

Man is the glory of God. It's like mankind lost his place in the garden and left. Interestingly enough, Jesus took the same route when he left the temple in Matt 23 and went to the mount of Olives to weep for Jerusalem. The glory left the temple in Ezekiel 11 and went to the eastern mountain -- Mount of Olives -- and then went to glory.

Jesus came back into the temple like the glory did in in Ezekiel 43, on the day of Pentecost. Same city, Jerusalem, but the temple changed forms.... people!

And he is the LAST MAN ADAM, the glory of God. So man RETURNED to the Garden as God's glory in Christ, after having left it in Adam. All in Adam shall perish, because Adam, left and never went back. All in Christ shall be made alive, since Christ is the Last Man Adam and entered the Garden for us..
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I also found that the sword of fire at the garden entrance was indicated to still be present in the tabernacle. When Nadab and Abihu brought strange fire and proceeded to enter the holiest past the veil, FIRE STRUCK THEM DOWN. There at the holiest veiled entrance were the cherubims sewn into the veil and the fire come down to destroy them as the flaming sword stood by the cherubims in the Garden entrance. . In other words, way into the holiest is not yet made available for all. Mankind was still locked out the Garden, so to speak. No eternal life from the tree for man til Christ came!

The high priest entering the holiest alone is Christ. The Old Covenant high priest alone could enter and way for all was not manifest. But when Christ came as high priest he was a forerunner, implying we enter behind Him.

Hebrews 8 through 9 shows that the first covenant and second covenant were symbolized by the first tabernacle and second tabernacle. The Second being the holiest.

Upon removal of the first tabernacle, the second could then be entered, just as remove of the old covenant allows the second covenant to take place. The first tabernacle was loaded with all sorts of rituals showing the meats and offerings of the first covenant that were removed once Christ came and tore the veil away. The veil belonged to the first tabernacle. Remove the first covenant and we have entrance into the new!
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