Belief in god and the right to homosexuality? - Page 10

mfblume · #91 07-21-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by phareztamar

Elder Blume,
thank you for your continued contributions to this forum. I always enjoy reading your insights. I would, however, humbly entreat you to consider your backs and forths with shazeep. you have far too much to offer: to your church, your family, and this forum, to be found so encumbered with this guy.

I testify that he has not the spirit of Christ, and is none of his. his fundamental stumbling at the cross of Jesus Christ, not to mention his ignorance of the whole counsel of God, sets him in a lonely chamber covered by the heavy veil of agape righteous blindness. You will not change him, regardless of how skillfully you present a truth to him. I think perhaps only my Lord can remove this blindness.

I'm not sure if I'm just seeing a stubborn refusal, on every fish he throws out there, to not devour it wholly, or if I'm seeing a zeal that's lost it's rudder. I think there are many on this forum who share the truths you champion. I myself share most of them. But at what point, my elder, does the great gulf between your time, effort, and frustration, and his willful blindness, become great enough to reconsider the investments of the gifts my Lord has given you? This man offers you not the respect due your office and calling. he is as the town drunkard fallen in the mud, and hollering at the mayor as he passes by.

While I enjoy some of the scriptures that come out in your tussles, believe it or not the frustration also follows for us who share this like precious faith. So, just wondering if its time and energy well spent. In your own words, "my thoughts anyway".

Thanks!

It was more or less time I had to spare and just for something to do, which also helps me learn to explain my thoughts better, like an exercise.

Esaias · #92 07-29-2016, 12:41 AM

MAAAAYOOOORRRRRRR!!!!

lol

mfblume · #93 07-29-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

MAAAAYOOOORRRRRRR!!!!

lol

I don't get it.

Jito463 · #94 07-29-2016, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I don't get it.

You're not the only one....

Esaias · #95 07-29-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

I don't get it.

"...like drunk fallen in the road yelling at the Mayor as he does by..."

From pharez' post above.

mfblume · #96 07-29-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

"...like drunk fallen in the road yelling at the Mayor as he does by..."

From pharez' post above.

ahhhh

shazeep · #97 07-29-2016, 04:32 PM

thephnxman · #98 08-15-2016, 07:51 AM

(Jude 1:12): "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they
feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are
without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers,
without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots..."

The above scripture describes those who claim to believe in God, and
then also claim a right to either be homosexual, or embrace a right of
the homosexual agenda. They are they that "...God gave them over
to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient..."
Of course there are some who have not yet reached that final stage,
but are found in the beginning and secondary stages of unbelief before
being given over to a reprobate mind.

The beginning stage (Rom. 1:26) is ignorance and unbelief in the gospel
that saves: they begin to believe that there just has to be some other
way to be justified. The secondary stage (Rom. 1:28) is belief in the LAW;
yet the LAW in which they think they have finally found justification is
NOT in God's Law, but that of man. For "...the god of this world..." has
discovered that the fastest way to recruit new converts(proselyte) is
to LEGALIZE sin!

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous
judgment."

shazeep · #99 08-15-2016, 08:03 AM

i understand your desire to make it about their salvation, phnx, but i think one must reflect upon how it may be more about legalizing their rights to be treated no differently, wadr. Those up there do not need conversion if they are already in the fold, or so it seems to me; meaning that a civil issue is likely being used to manufacture a religious issue, when there is no spiritual issue, perhaps.

thephnxman · #**100** 08-16-2016, 08:17 AM

(BUMP)

(Jude 1:12): "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they
feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are
without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withers,
without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots..."

The above scripture describes those who claim to believe in God, and
then also claim a right to either be homosexual, or embrace a right of
the homosexual agenda. They are they that "...God gave them over
to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient..."
Of course there are some who have not yet reached that final stage,
but are found in the beginning and secondary stages of unbelief before
being given over to a reprobate mind.

The beginning stage (Rom. 1:26) is ignorance and unbelief in the gospel
that saves: they begin to believe that there just has to be some other
way to be justified. The secondary stage (Rom. 1:28) is belief in the LAW;
yet the LAW in which they think they have finally found justification is
NOT in God's Law, but that of man. For "...the god of this world..." has
discovered that the fastest way to recruit new converts(proselyte) is
to LEGALIZE sin!

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous
judgment."