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05-17-2016, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Far more than any 'conservative' has, that's for sure. When 'conservatives' claim Trump will 'destroy conservativism', you have to wonder what 'conservativism' they are talking about....
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Trump wants to raise taxes, raise minimum wage, has waffled on gun rights and first amendment rights.
Trump isn't conservative. As stated in the OP, his lack of respect for the Constitution, freedom and liberty should be a cause for concern.
But again, most Trump supporters only care about deportation, the wall and nationalism. And while I don't believe Trump is racist, he has tapped into what a lot of white nationalists and racists believe.
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05-17-2016, 02:58 PM
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I did read the post, but got caught up in the "struggle of the moment" over the Hispanics and Latinos phrase.
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Easy to do when someone hijacks a thread and distracts from the subject of the thread.
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If Trump will put us on a path to "handle" the illegal immigration issue, than he will have completed more than any POTUS in our time.
In my opinion.
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I don't believe Trump is going to do anything on immigration. He won't get his wall. He won't be able to deport the illegals from Canada and Europe, since none come from South of the border. (Begs the question: why only a wall on the southern border?)
Trump is a businessman, and as such has profited richly from illegal immigration. Businesses don't want tough immigration or deportations.
Also, the NY Times claims there's audio from their interview in which Trump allegedly signals that he will not be as tough as he claims at his rallies. I'd love for a NY Times employee to leak the tape, but so far it hasn't happened.
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05-18-2016, 11:48 AM
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Re: Trump on the Constitution, Liberty and Freedom
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Easy to do when someone hijacks a thread and distracts from the subject of the thread.
I don't believe Trump is going to do anything on immigration. He won't get his wall. He won't be able to deport the illegals from Canada and Europe, since none come from South of the border. (Begs the question: why only a wall on the southern border?)
Trump is a businessman, and as such has profited richly from illegal immigration. Businesses don't want tough immigration or deportations.
Also, the NY Times claims there's audio from their interview in which Trump allegedly signals that he will not be as tough as he claims at his rallies. I'd love for a NY Times employee to leak the tape, but so far it hasn't happened.
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Here's what we have so far from NDavid....
Trump probably is not a racist. In fact, he probably won't do anything about illegal immigration. But since white nationalists have expressed interest in his campaign, and since most illegal aliens are from Mexico, all of Trump's supporters must be racist and want Hispanics and Latinos to be kicked out.
Got it.
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05-18-2016, 12:01 PM
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Here's what we have so far from NDavid....
Trump probably is not a racist. In fact, he probably won't do anything about illegal immigration. But since white nationalists have expressed interest in his campaign, and since most illegal aliens are from Mexico, all of Trump's supporters must be racist and want Hispanics and Latinos to be kicked out.
Got it.
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At it again, Lyin 0. Your post is completely dishonest.
"""all of Trump's supporters must be racist and want Hispanics and Latinos to be kicked out."""
Never said this. Another fabricated and false quote.
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Originally Posted by n david
But again, most Trump supporters only care about deportation, the wall and nationalism.
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Originally Posted by n david
There are a majority of Trumpsters who want the wall. There are also most Trumpsters who want deportation.... Also, I didn't say all Trumpsters want this, numerically, I meant all they want is this. And for most Trumpsters that is true.
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Lyin', two-bit hack 0.
Do you ever tell the truth? You couldn't tell the truth, holding the Bible, looking at Jesus. Such dishonesty and lies.
Last edited by n david; 05-18-2016 at 12:04 PM.
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05-18-2016, 12:13 PM
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Here's what we have so far from NDavid....
all of Trump's supporters must be racist
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I never said that. In fact, in my posts I've been careful as to not even lump "all" Trumpsters with support for the wall, deportation or nationalism.
I have never, not one time have I said even "most" Trumpsters were racists, much less "all."
I have said that "many" are. And that is true.
"Many," for the low information, ignorant Trumpsters who don't know, is less than "all." "Many" is also less than "most," and less than a "majority."
Last edited by n david; 05-18-2016 at 01:11 PM.
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05-18-2016, 01:14 PM
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Re: Trump on the Constitution, Liberty and Freedom
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Originally Posted by n david
At it again, Lyin 0. Your post is completely dishonest.
"""all of Trump's supporters must be racist and want Hispanics and Latinos to be kicked out."""
Never said this. Another fabricated and false quote.
Lyin', two-bit hack 0.
Do you ever tell the truth? You couldn't tell the truth, holding the Bible, looking at Jesus. Such dishonesty and lies.
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Funny how it is fine for you to express your perceptions of Trump supporters as fact instead of your opinion,yet when I share my perception of your commentaries,you simply accuse me of lying imstead of clarifying your remarks and explaining where I err in my perception.
Last edited by Originalist; 05-18-2016 at 01:20 PM.
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