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Old 06-06-2015, 08:19 PM
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This kind of venting should never be written, for the benefit of all involved. By all means, unload on a friend, but on the phone or over a plate of bacon.
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This kind of venting should never be written, for the benefit of all involved. By all means, unload on a friend, but on the phone or over a plate of bacon.
Come on let's go get some nice BBQ Buffalo burgers, with pepper jack cheese, nice thick bacon, with maple candied onions.

I'll bring the family and drive by with the Lincoln.
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Come on let's go get some nice BBQ Buffalo burgers, with pepper jack cheese, nice thick bacon, with maple candied onions.

I'll bring the family and drive by with the Lincoln.
Will you stop doing that, I'm trying to fast!
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Will you stop doing that, I'm trying to fast!
OK Brother Rudy, I'll save you a plate.
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I was shocked when I read these. These are screenshots of some posts from a private UPCI pastors blog on facebook. They are discussing (gossiping) and reprimanding saints who have simply left their churches (because of spiritual abuse). I am so glad that I am a part of one of the handful of UPC churches that is thriving and doesn't rule their people.

I have blurred the names for obvious reasons... and they are out of order too.
This guy is a pastor? Really? So self absorbed. You can see the spiritual immaturity in everything he writes. Sickening.
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I was shocked when I read these. These are screenshots of some posts from a private UPCI pastors blog on facebook. They are discussing (gossiping) and reprimanding saints who have simply left their churches (because of spiritual abuse). I am so glad that I am a part of one of the handful of UPC churches that is thriving and doesn't rule their people.

I have blurred the names for obvious reasons... and they are out of order too.
If these are from a private blog, how did you get them?
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If these are from a private blog, how did you get them?
Either he's a member of the private forum, aka a UPC licensed minister, or he improperly accessed the FB account of someone who is. Either way, it's unethical and sleazy.
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Either he's a member of the private forum, aka a UPC licensed minister, or he improperly accessed the FB account of someone who is. Either way, it's unethical and sleazy.
Agreed. Regardless of what was said (which may or may not be appropriate, but didn't appear to be abuse either way), it was completely inappropriate to post private conversations - that were intended to be kept private - in a public forum.

I call that this thread should be locked, and the original posts be deleted.
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The names were blotted out. I don't see any harm in it.
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Agreed. Regardless of what was said (which may or may not be appropriate, but didn't appear to be abuse either way), it was completely inappropriate to post private conversations - that were intended to be kept private - in a public forum.

I call that this thread should be locked, and the original posts be deleted.
Of course you do, because we would never want to expose how warped the system is, right?

It never fails.

1. On forums such as this we're told, over and over, that the type of behavior exhibited in the screen shots is rare, or non-existent.
2. Someone is given access to such behavior, deletes the names of those involved, and posts the evidence.
3. Those who deny this type of behavior happens immediately bash the person who dared submit the evidence, and call for the evidence to be deleted.

None of this is surprising...not the fact that pastors hide behind internet walls and discuss situations that should be confidential, not the fact that some pastors are controlling dictators who value legacy over people, and not the fact that they are willing to destroy anyone who realizes as much.
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