Lee Stoneking Addresses UN

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

Interesting how a change of venue can change your point of view dramatically.

At least NASCAR makes sense...no rules around here.

Aint for the faint of heart. Tried the Causeway yet? It's a real treat

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Nothing confusing about made up stories of caves and wives. Nothing confusing about posting pictures from a play in 2009 and labeling them a service. Nothing confusing about a speech to a room full of empty seats with an observation that an address at the UN is not the same as an address to the UN, with to the UN defined as to the UN members or delegates.

Its a group of unrelated events with one common denominator. Exaggeration. What appears to be systematic and deliberate exaggeration. Exaggeration can have only one intent. Only one. To mislead.

There is no deceit there as far as addressing the General Assembly. Nobody said it was full. That's not an exaggeration.

As has been said before, even the UN President was there. LS was not addressing an empty room.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

I think it's funny that WII is pretty much the only calm one here and everyone else is apoplectic. Course I can't stand Stoneking so I'm not likely to defend the guy.

He isn't the only calm one here. Im not sure how you came to that conclusion...In fact Im not so sure he is "calm"...seems a rather subjective designation.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by n david

Only one of those pictures are of the General Assembly room.

I'll repeat: This was a "High Level" meeting of the 69th General Assembly. You can stomp your foot and act like a petulant child all you want. You can post all the pictures of full meetings vs mostly empty meetings all you want. Were it just Stoneking, Wilson or someone else claiming this was a "High Level" meeting of the 69th General Assembly, you could argue all you wanted.

But you can't argue the official UN Journal and schedule of that day. You can, but you'll be wrong. And not because Stoneking, Wilson, Thinker or I say you are, but because the UN says you're wrong.

Wait. I thought you said this picture (above) is NOT the General Assembly room



This one is on Art Wilson's twitter page. Same room too.

You're not saying that this Art Wilson tweet with this photo is.....misleading are you?

Caption: "Happening Now, United Nations General Assembly"

Same photo YOU told ME was a lie when I posted it in my General Assembly pictures.

https://twitter.com/ArtWilson777

You guys said I was lying when I posted this room in my "General Assembly" photos. This same room is on Wilson's twitter page dated June 10th.

So If I was lying because I posted that room, and that exact room is posted on Art Wilson's page captioned "General Assembly...."

You boys better get together fast. I don't believe I would have pasted "liar" on me for posting that picture when that same picture is posted on Art Wilson's page with the exact same "General Assembly" reference.

Not smart.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Barb

And we ALL agree. The stories are extreme. But caves and wives is not the main subject of this thread, or at least it wasn't until your rant.

And again...my unanswered question:

Why does ANY of this matter to a Muslim?

This who deal is a good example of why I cautiously waded in with some skepticism

Why in the world do we need to shout and cheer for the fact LS was there? Does it validate us? Me personally I don't need validation. What is wrong with us if we feel we need it?

There has been a TON of exaggeration for years, which is why when I first saw this I actually kinda cringed. I KNEW the Devils Advocates would be out in force and maybe for good reason

The problem though, I see, is their side does not really have a healthy skepticism. Ask questions, examine facts. Let others come to conclusions

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Barb

Ummmm...help out an old woman...I don't post much around here anymore. As a matter of fact, this thread is the most I have posted in ages.

So help me out...are YOU Muslim? Oh my word! Honest to goodness, I thought the Walker was the only one.

I certainly meant no disrespect to you at all...

none taken. i have just lived around Muslims enough to have seen Christ reflected in their daily lives, rather than reduced to a formula that seems to unfailingly produce people who are certain of their salvation, to the exclusion of all others, attended to in a mortgaged building a couple times a week.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

He isn't the only calm one here. Im not sure how you came to that conclusion...In fact Im not so sure he is "calm"...seems a rather subjective designation.

See, that's from going way back. I'm exposed.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Wait. I thought you said this picture (above) is NOT the General Assembly room



This one is on Art Wilson's twitter page. Same room too.

You're not saying that this Art Wilson tweet with this photo is.....misleading are you?

Caption: "Happening Now, United Nations General Assembly"

Same photo YOU told ME was a lie when I posted it in my General Assembly pictures.

https://twitter.com/ArtWilson777

You guys said I was lying when I posted this room in my "General Assembly" photos. This same room is on Wilson's twitter page dated June 10th.

So If I was lying because I posted that room, and that exact room is posted on Art Wilson's page captioned "General Assembly...."

You boys better get together fast. I don't believe I would have pasted "liar" on me for posting that picture when that same picture is posted on Art Wilson's page with the exact same "General Assembly" reference.

Not smart.

Well if YOU were not lying then maybe Art was not lying.....

Why is it you can speculate on someone elses morality but when the tables are turned it's suddenly wrong?

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

There is no deceit there as far as addressing the General Assembly. Nobody said it was full. That's not an exaggeration.

As has been said before, even the UN President was there. LS was not addressing an empty room.

Of course he wasn't. I counted at least three in the audience.

Just saying that wasn't "the Assembly"

Those pictures I posted that y'all said weren't of the Assembly room? Same room on Art's twitter page. They are also captioned "General Assembly"

That's really funny.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

When you read Jesus saying or doing anything, just remember this scripture in Hebrews 5:7 "Who in the days of his flesh..."

I have been posting on this forum and it's precursors for a long time and have only put 4 people on ignore - two permanent who have been banned, David once and you. Your anti-Semitic views against Israel and Ted Cruz are why you are on my Ignore list. Will miss you in heaven, dude.

Um yeah. Jesus didn't teach, speak, or write in the book of Hebrews.

The author of Hebrews DID claim to meet Jesus, but the three versions of how he did it were contradictory. You should read them carefully side by side.

I was more referring to what Jesus actually did and said.

I gotta get some sleep