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02-24-2015, 09:18 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
It doesn't bother you that a code of dress that has absolutely no witness in scripture, should be a code that is followed to attain eternal salvation?
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Come on, Sister, I never said anything about "eternal salvation". There's a bunch of things that I PERSONALLY adhere to that have nothing to do with salvation. Folks can try to attack my convictions (not necessarily you) and try to make me appear weak minded or stupid, but my convictions have enhanced my own personal life.
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02-25-2015, 08:49 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
Come on, Sister, I never said anything about "eternal salvation". There's a bunch of things that I PERSONALLY adhere to that have nothing to do with salvation. Folks can try to attack my convictions (not necessarily you) and try to make me appear weak minded or stupid, but my convictions have enhanced my own personal life.
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Well, I certainly respect that you have your own personal convictions, as should we all.
It is just that many times these convictions have been taught as standards for the church, and that if the standard for the church are not kept, that is considered rebellion, and we all know rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and - so you see the slippery slope here - when you begin to teach an application as a standard, and what happens if you don't follow it.
Essentially - if your church teaches no beards on men, and a man chooses to wear a beard - is he then in rebellion? (See how slippery this slope is?)
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03-01-2015, 05:45 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Well, I certainly respect that you have your own personal convictions, as should we all.
It is just that many times these convictions have been taught as standards for the church, and that if the standard for the church are not kept, that is considered rebellion, and we all know rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and - so you see the slippery slope here - when you begin to teach an application as a standard, and what happens if you don't follow it.
Essentially - if your church teaches no beards on men, and a man chooses to wear a beard - is he then in rebellion? (See how slippery this slope is?)
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I think it would be. Churches are like private clubs with rules to follow. If they make it a hell issue it needs to be challenged in an orderly way.
Truth can be treason when going against traditions of men. One very well known preacher in the upc told me he would not go against his father's teaching on facial hair. His father was an evangelist who use to be the pastor. He included his peers as well. Truth did not matter.
I was no longer welcomed in 2 assemblies because I don't tithe money. Their rules so I didn't go back.
Attending a private club is a privilege not a right imo.
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03-02-2015, 09:47 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Rudy
I think it would be. Churches are like private clubs with rules to follow. If they make it a hell issue it needs to be challenged in an orderly way.
Truth can be treason when going against traditions of men. One very well known preacher in the upc told me he would not go against his father's teaching on facial hair. His father was an evangelist who use to be the pastor. He included his peers as well. Truth did not matter.
I was no longer welcomed in 2 assemblies because I don't tithe money. Their rules so I didn't go back.
Attending a private club is a privilege not a right imo.
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Sad, but very, very true.
Much more emphasis should be on heart issues, but sadly, just like in the case of the Pharisees, it is much easier to regulate outward acts, than the inward condition of the heart.
Mark 7:15 "There is nothing from without a man that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man."
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03-02-2015, 07:19 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Rudy
I think it would be. Churches are like private clubs with rules to follow. If they make it a hell issue it needs to be challenged in an orderly way.
Truth can be treason when going against traditions of men. One very well known preacher in the upc told me he would not go against his father's teaching on facial hair. His father was an evangelist who use to be the pastor. He included his peers as well. Truth did not matter.
I was no longer welcomed in 2 assemblies because I don't tithe money. Their rules so I didn't go back.
Attending a private club is a privilege not a right imo.
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I firmly believe God wants men to have beards. I have one and attend a Apostolic Church and if my Pastor wanted me to leave I would but he has never asked me to. He does teach against beards or any facial hair but there is no scripture backing this teaching.
Why does man try so hard every day to remove what God has given man? The link below is a good read on coverings and beards.
http://www.remnantbride.com/coverings/chapter01.htm
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09-21-2015, 09:56 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
Bumping this so CC1 can ask how Steve Pixler is doing.
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09-21-2015, 02:31 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus
Bumping this so CC1 can ask how Steve Pixler is doing.
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You are kind. I have been occasionally listening to his sermons on his website but have been busy the last few months and forgot. I will put it on my list to do!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-13-2016, 02:11 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
I am a member of the Church of God in Northern Ireland. Steve Pixler is coming here to preach our Easter Convention. For around 60 years, the Church of God has preached Oneness truth and baptised in Jesus' Name. The church is historist and post trib. Over the years we have maintained excellent relations with the UPC in North America, despite obvious doctrinal difference.
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03-13-2016, 04:27 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by ulsterman
I am a member of the Church of God in Northern Ireland. Steve Pixler is coming here to preach our Easter Convention. For around 60 years, the Church of God has preached Oneness truth and baptised in Jesus' Name. The church is historist and post trib. Over the years we have maintained excellent relations with the UPC in North America, despite obvious doctrinal difference.
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Dia dhuit! Greetings from Texas.
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03-13-2016, 06:48 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by ulsterman
I am a member of the Church of God in Northern Ireland. Steve Pixler is coming here to preach our Easter Convention. For around 60 years, the Church of God has preached Oneness truth and baptised in Jesus' Name. The church is historist and post trib. Over the years we have maintained excellent relations with the UPC in North America, despite obvious doctrinal difference.
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Your organization have a website?
Historicist Post Trib? Interesting, why don't you come down to the eschatology section and tell us about it?
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...splay.php?f=39
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