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02-21-2015, 08:43 AM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
I don't have a problem with Bro. Pixler except his teaching on tithing. We don't agree on everything but as they say "he's looking our way." The entire Pixler/Davis family are good people who love God.
PS-I'm pretty sure Steve Pixler isn't concerned with me. I'm outside of the oneness movement so not a lot of oneness have formal fellowship with me. But it's my roots so I'm always interested from a distance at what's going on. I'm encouraged to see SP make these moves and pray He follows the leading of God.
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What do you believe about tithing?
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02-21-2015, 09:26 AM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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He'll be growing a beard in short order!
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Oh the shame of it all. What would Jesus think about facial hair....oh...wait.... I seem to remember them plucking something on his face.....
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02-21-2015, 12:29 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Oh the shame of it all. What would Jesus think about facial hair....oh...wait.... I seem to remember them plucking something on his face.....
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I'm in agreement that God does not forbid facial hair. In fact I attend a Apostolic Church and have a full beard. My Pastor does preach against facial hair probably once a year and I am not allowed to be in any ministry as long as I have my beard but he does welcome me. I've been going there for almost 14 years. Nobody has ever shown me any scripture forbiding beards. I believe beard is mentioned 19 times in the OT and not once in the NT.
The church is part of ACJC.
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02-21-2015, 01:09 PM
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What do you believe about tithing?
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That there is no required percentage for believers to give in the new covenant. All giving is blessed. There is no "curse" for not giving enough money to the church. And you especially do not enter into a covenant with a pastor by tithing to him (as SP taught). That's nonsense.
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02-21-2015, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Peace Frog
I'm in agreement that God does not forbid facial hair. In fact I attend a Apostolic Church and have a full beard. My Pastor does preach against facial hair probably once a year and I am not allowed to be in any ministry as long as I have my beard but he does welcome me. I've been going there for almost 14 years. Nobody has ever shown me any scripture forbiding beards. I believe beard is mentioned 19 times in the OT and not once in the NT.
The church is part of ACJC.
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I think I'd leave a church that barred me from ministry for unbiblical reasons. Even if I wasn't called to ministry, just the fact that they don't fully accept me would be enough to leave. Now if it were a question of sin or the requirements of 1 Timothy 3, that'd be different. But over the preferences of a man, nah.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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02-21-2015, 01:43 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
I think I'd leave a church that barred me from ministry for unbiblical reasons. Even if I wasn't called to ministry, just the fact that they don't fully accept me would be enough to leave. Now if it were a question of sin or the requirements of 1 Timothy 3, that'd be different. But over the preferences of a man, nah. |
I have prayed about it over the years because I have had some sort of facial hair before I started attending church here. I cannot find anywhere where the Word is taught nor preached like it is here though. I do not agree with everything anyone preaches and will always pray and search the scriptures to confirm God's Word.
At times I pray I could get up there and give my testimony because I have had a miracle from God but He said I could give my testimony in so many places not just in the church.
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02-21-2015, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Peace Frog
I have prayed about it over the years because I have had some sort of facial hair before I started attending church here. I cannot find anywhere where the Word is taught nor preached like it is here though. I do not agree with everything anyone preaches and will always pray and search the scriptures to confirm God's Word.
At times I pray I could get up there and give my testimony because I have had a miracle from God but He said I could give my testimony in so many places not just in the church.
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To each his own. I'm not trying to discourage you nor tell you to leave. Just saying I myself wouldn't stay. If there is no unrepentant sin in your life and if you are living a faithful godly life and if the only reason you aren't allowed to give your testimony or participate in leadership ( if you desired to) is because you have facial hair, that's unbiblical. Simple as that. I'm assuming they don't mind accepting your tithes, beard and all.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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02-21-2015, 04:48 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
To each his own. I'm not trying to discourage you nor tell you to leave. Just saying I myself wouldn't stay. If there is no unrepentant sin in your life and if you are living a faithful godly life and if the only reason you aren't allowed to give your testimony or participate in leadership ( if you desired to) is because you have facial hair, that's unbiblical. Simple as that. I'm assuming they don't mind accepting your tithes, beard and all.
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I do tithe and I can honestly say I have never been left out of any church activities and have been invited to conference just like the rest of the members. My pastor is actually very high up in the ACJCI and other than not allowing me ministry for my beard I have no issues with him. I would like to sing in the choir but I do my part during praise and worship? Also I have a awesome (I think it is anyway) testimony about a miracle God performed on me but I am not allowed up there to give it.
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02-21-2015, 06:29 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
If a teacher can't get the little, plainly obvious stuff right, what else might he have wrong?
If nobody with a beard can testify what God has done, then according to those rules JESUS HIMSELF isn't allowed to testify (let alone teach).
Wow, a church where Jesus isn't allowed... what is that? No more than a synagogue of man (or worse).
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02-21-2015, 07:13 PM
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Re: Has Steve Pixler left Apostolic Conservatism?
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Originally Posted by Peace Frog
At times I pray I could get up there and give my testimony because I have had a miracle from God but He said I could give my testimony in so many places not just in the church.
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Wow! Giving glory to God should be encouraged!
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