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02-18-2015, 03:02 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
Today, my chiropractor told me that doctors get paid more if they vaccinate. So, I googled it and this is what I found:
http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/hea...lly-vaccinated
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02-18-2015, 03:07 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
 it's always "follow the money," huh
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02-18-2015, 04:13 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
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 it's always "follow the money," huh
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When I was young and clever, I wanted to change the world. Now that I am older and wiser, I strive to change myself. ~
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02-19-2015, 10:13 AM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
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Exactly the truth, ILG. My daughter had two pediatricians turn her down as a patient because she refuses to vaccinate her children. But, there are others out there who will see you.
Did you see the link about The Doctors refusing to allow a guest to bring up Merck and the lawsuits filed against them BY their own scientists? Amazingly, the media is silent.
As stated, there is another side to this vaccine story.
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02-19-2015, 05:11 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
WIC Threatening Unvaccinated Kids With Starvation
WIC , if you recall, is a federally funded nutrition program for Women, Infants, and Children. WIC provides the following at no cost to poor families: healthy foods, nutrition education and counseling, breastfeeding support, and referrals for health care and community services.
These poor mothers, many who are single without any family support and barely scraping by, are being told that a new WIC “policy” has been implemented that gives them one month to get their children up to date on their vaccines.
The price of noncompliance?
No WIC benefits which is akin to a starvation sentence for the children of these below poverty line mothers.
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.c...e+Economist%29
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02-19-2015, 05:22 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
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Open Letter to Doctors Who Reject Unvaccinated Children
I was kicked out of my first pediatrician office in 1998. The Pediatrician in question was an old family friend, a neighbor of my high school sweetheart whose family I knew very well.
He was also a colleague of my Dad, a Geriatrician and Family Doctor at the same hospital in Dunedin, Florida.
This well-respected Pediatrician was very welcoming at first when I arrived for my initial office visit with our newborn son. Thankfully, my Mother-in-Law who is a nurse was with me. The alarm bells began going off in my head shortly after the examination started when I told him that my healthy, beautiful baby had been born at a birth center.
You could immediately see in his eyes the mental shutdown process begin as he proceeded to chastise me for my birthing decision and how women foolishly risk their own lives as well as the lives of their babies by forgoing a hospital birth.
When the time came for vaccination, though, that’s when things got ugly.
I had thought that because this Pediatrician was a friend of the family and was a very gentle, hands on type of doctor, that he would understand and respect our family’s wishes to delay vaccination due to concerns about toxicity and overall safety.
I was wrong.
While he seemed to grudgingly accept that I was going to delay standard childhood immunizations for the time being, he proceeded to push hard for me to vaccinate my son for rotovirus.
He explained that this particular vaccine was not a live vaccine and was “perfectly safe”. He also said it was very important that I vaccinate for rotovirus as it was an extremely contagious and dangerous intestinal illness for babies that caused dozens of deaths each year.
Was I scared by these words as a new Mom?
Yes, I most certainly was!
I remember the moment so well as I was struggling mentally with what to do at that moment. It was as if time stood still, and I felt that this moment and what I decided to do would somehow change my life forever, strange as that may sound.
In a split second, the answer came to me. I told him that I really needed to discuss the issue with my husband first as we had promised each other that we would jointly decide all medical decisions for our family.
My Mother-in-Law voiced her support for my decision.
I heaved a sigh of relief as I left the office. I had bought us some time.
Time to think. Time to research.
When I got home, I researched the rotovirus vaccine as best I could with what little was available online and was horrified at what I discovered. The list of ingredients was something that I would never consider, for any reason, for injection into my baby’s vulnerable little body! There was no way this lethal mixture could have benefits that outweighed the risks to his health, both in the short and long term.
I called the Pediatrician’s office and relayed my decision. I was promptly told that the doctor would no longer have me as a patient.
Shocked and hurt, I cried at the callous betrayal by an old family friend.
What to do now, I thought?
Was I going to be able to find a doctor who would respect our wishes to delay vaccination?
A few months later, I learned that the rotovirus vaccine this Pediatrican had pushed on me and promised was safe had been withdrawn from the market as it carried the significant and life threatening risk of twisting of the bowel which had already caused the hospitalization and emergency surgery for a number of babies. By the way, the new rotovirus vaccine that replaced it, RotaTeq, is even worse. It is a genetically engineered vaccine made of live, attenuated human-bovine hybridized reassortant rotaviruses.
It was at that point that I realized that assurances of vaccine safety by those in authority are hollow and meaningless. Our decision to delay vaccination turned into a decision to opt out of all vaccines.
Who needs a doctor who violates the Constitution by discriminating against pro-life families who don’t vaccinate for religious reasons because numerous childhood (and adult) vaccines use electively aborted human fetal cell lines?
Don’t believe it Doc? Click here for a list of vaccines that use abortion as the manufacturing method of choice. - http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineListOrigFormat.pdf
The only reason these doctor groups haven’t been sued already is because it is so easy to find another doctor who accepts unvaccinated patients and also because when a parent chooses not to vaccinate, there is so little sickness which requires a doctor’s care anyway! Could vaccination be one way of ensuring repeat and residual business?
Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
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This is an excerpt of the letter and I agree with the LAST sentence!!!
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02-19-2015, 07:20 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
Thanks for posting all these articles. It is really sad to see doctors who won't treat children just because they aren't vaccinated. And now WIC not giving unvaccinated children help with food - that is the most outrageous thing yet! Makes you wonder when the hysteria is going to end?
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02-20-2015, 07:56 AM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
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Thanks for posting all these articles. It is really sad to see doctors who won't treat children just because they aren't vaccinated. And now WIC not giving unvaccinated children help with food - that is the most outrageous thing yet! Makes you wonder when the hysteria is going to end?
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Exactly! When will the hysteria end? Pushing the country into a totalitarian place is the goal. These people crying out are doing so out of fear and don't realize they are doing more harm than good. Having total government control over our healthcare is simply dangerous. We have no control over our lives when the last thing they have is our health.
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02-20-2015, 08:59 AM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
Thanks for the posts, PO. I also agree with the last sentence, "Could vaccination be one way of ensuring repeat and residual business?"
Dr's don't just use vaccinations as a way of ensuring repeat business though. My PCP tries pushing meds we don't need, which could cause worse issues which would require different medication.... and on and on it goes.
He asked me how I was once, and I told him a was a bit tired. That was a mistake. He rattled off 20 more questions about depression and anxiety and recommended an RX. I'm not depressed!  I was up late the night before and woke up early that morning. I was simply tired from lack of a good night's rest.
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02-20-2015, 02:36 PM
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Re: ILG - Vaccine Hysteria
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Originally Posted by n david
Thanks for the posts, PO. I also agree with the last sentence, "Could vaccination be one way of ensuring repeat and residual business?"
Dr's don't just use vaccinations as a way of ensuring repeat business though. My PCP tries pushing meds we don't need, which could cause worse issues which would require different medication.... and on and on it goes.
He asked me how I was once, and I told him a was a bit tired. That was a mistake. He rattled off 20 more questions about depression and anxiety and recommended an RX. I'm not depressed!  I was up late the night before and woke up early that morning. I was simply tired from lack of a good night's rest.
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