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01-22-2015, 02:08 PM
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What was wrong with Phillip?
Phillip's evangelistic ministry is described in Acts. Only two events are described. In one case (the eunuch) no mention is made of him receiving the Holy Ghost. In the other case (Samaria) it is specifically stated the converts did NOT receive the Spirit.
Seems to be a pattern here. Why does Luke make an issue of pointing out the Samaritans did NOT receive the Spirit, and yet leave out any mention of the Ethiopian receiving the Spirit? Is Luke trying to make a point?
What would we think of an evangelist who could get folks into the water but none of them ever got the Holy Ghost?
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01-22-2015, 02:13 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
Well then.... what are gonna do with the Apostle Paul who stated in 1 Cor. 1:17 that it was not his job to get people into the water, but that Christ called him to preach the gospel....
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01-23-2015, 04:57 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Phillip's evangelistic ministry is described in Acts. Only two events are described. In one case (the eunuch) no mention is made of him receiving the Holy Ghost. In the other case (Samaria) it is specifically stated the converts did NOT receive the Spirit.
Seems to be a pattern here. Why does Luke make an issue of pointing out the Samaritans did NOT receive the Spirit, and yet leave out any mention of the Ethiopian receiving the Spirit? Is Luke trying to make a point?
What would we think of an evangelist who could get folks into the water but none of them ever got the Holy Ghost?
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How about a Mormon missionary getting the Holy Ghost with speaking in other tongues after you convince him of the Apostolic truth? All this while he is standing with the another missionary in a church parking lot? The other missionary was terrified! The one speaking in tongues could barely walk back to his bicycle. The moment the young missionary lifted his hands and said Jesus I love you! He burst into tears, and with snot bubbles flowing he began to speak in another tongue as the Spirit gave the utterance!
Yet, I wasn't translated.
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01-23-2015, 05:22 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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How about a Mormon missionary getting the Holy Ghost with speaking in other tongues after you convince him of the Apostolic truth? All this while he is standing with the another missionary in a church parking lot? The other missionary was terrified! The one speaking in tongues could barely walk back to his bicycle. The moment the young missionary lifted his hands and said Jesus I love you! He burst into tears, and with snot bubbles flowing he began to speak in another tongue as the Spirit gave the utterance!
Yet, I wasn't translated.
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What an awesome testimony Bro.!
You are right - we want to find all the truth we can in one simple statement or telling of an event... but we can by no means say that just because your Morman missionary friend received the HG in the parking lot that he did not seek the Lord any further, or find himself buried in the waters of baptism. Surely there is more to your story.... and surely there must be more to the story of both Phillip and Paul. 
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01-23-2015, 07:18 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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What an awesome testimony Bro.!
You are right - we want to find all the truth we can in one simple statement or telling of an event... but we can by no means say that just because your Morman missionary friend received the HG in the parking lot that he did not seek the Lord any further, or find himself buried in the waters of baptism. Surely there is more to your story.... and surely there must be more to the story of both Phillip and Paul. |
Amen! 
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01-23-2015, 11:02 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Phillip's evangelistic ministry is described in Acts. Only two events are described. In one case (the eunuch) no mention is made of him receiving the Holy Ghost. In the other case (Samaria) it is specifically stated the converts did NOT receive the Spirit.
Seems to be a pattern here. Why does Luke make an issue of pointing out the Samaritans did NOT receive the Spirit, and yet leave out any mention of the Ethiopian receiving the Spirit? Is Luke trying to make a point?
What would we think of an evangelist who could get folks into the water but none of them ever got the Holy Ghost?
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Luke doesn't give us everything that happens or is said in each book of Acts evangelistic encounter. He relates the aspects of the encounter that he deems important through the anointing of the Spirit.
If we start with the presupposition that speaking with tongues accompanies the baptism of the Spirit as it did in Acts 2, which imo is the basic pattern for all who will receive the Spirit, then I would expect that the Eunuch received the Spirit otherwise Philip would have sent for the apostles as he did in Samaria.
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01-23-2015, 11:15 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
What an awesome testimony Bro.!
You are right - we want to find all the truth we can in one simple statement or telling of an event... but we can by no means say that just because your Morman missionary friend received the HG in the parking lot that he did not seek the Lord any further, or find himself buried in the waters of baptism. Surely there is more to your story.... and surely there must be more to the story of both Phillip and Paul. |
Of course there is always more to the story.
Most people forget that the book of acts is actually a small summary of the acts of Peter and Paul in the early church.
They do not tell every detail of their ministry.
the travels of Paul are described quite briefly with little details of what happened in those travels.
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01-24-2015, 07:02 AM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. - Eph. 4:29
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01-24-2015, 12:13 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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He was a Baptist 
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01-24-2015, 05:51 PM
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Re: What was wrong with Phillip?
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 Easy, Phillip the evangelist was not an apostle. 
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some of the ancient texts have him as Phillip the apostle.
so either it was the same Philip or a different Philip.
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