Angels reproducing with humans possible?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Remind me of the man.

lol

I wondered how you would phrase that...

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

lol
I wondered how you would phrase that...

Yeah: one always wonders what will come next.

[Michael The Disciple]

Its hilarious to think we believe angels can either fly back and forth or teleport themselves from Heaven to the Earth, they can rebel against God taking other angels with them, they can stand before the throne of heaven BUT they dont have enough power to change themselves into men!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its hilarious to think we believe angels can either fly back and forth or teleport themselves from Heaven to the Earth, they can rebel against God taking other angels with them, they can stand before the throne of heaven BUT they dont have enough power to change themselves into men!

They don't have enough power to violate the limitations Jesus said exists with them. We can believe for anything supernatural. No believer is that silly to not. However, we cannot violate what the Word says. And when the word says the situation simply cannot exist, then so be it. I stand by the word.

I believe angels could likely turn the sky into pink and purple polka dots instead of blue. But why think such a thing would happen?

It's all just enabling the nonsense of the BOOK OF ENOCH.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Its hilarious to think we believe angels can either fly back and forth or teleport themselves from Heaven to the Earth, they can rebel against God taking other angels with them, they can stand before the throne of heaven BUT they dont have enough power to change themselves into men!

You sound like a non-believer!

Why do you think it hilarious to believe the spiritual realm has dominance over the natural realm: that the obedient angels can
travel from the eternal to the temporal, and back again: but solely at the command of a Reigning God?

Disobedient angels cannot traverse from the temporal to the eternal: they are confined to this universe until the time of their
judgment: even as man is confined to his body of clay, until the the day of "...the redemption of our body." It is really
no mystery!

If anyone really believes that disobedient angels can stand "before the throne of heaven", then they don't really
know as much as they think they do. Surely, they could not have come to that conclusion by the Holy Spirit!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by mfblume

They don't have enough power to violate the limitations Jesus said exists with them. We can believe for anything supernatural. No believer is that silly to not. However, we cannot violate what the Word says. And when the word says the situation simply cannot exist, then so be it. I stand by the word.

I believe angels could likely turn the sky into pink and purple polka dots instead of blue. But why think such a thing would happen?

It's all just enabling the nonsense of the BOOK OF ENOCH.

All Jesus said was that angels don't marry, nor are they given in marriage. Jesus said nothing about existing limits of their abilities. Too many people read too much into the text. The subject was marriage in the resurrection.

[Aquila]

If angels had taken on human form and walked among us with powers, took wives, had children (Nephilim) and filled the earth with violence and wickedness... wouldn't this be the advent of paganism, violence, and evil on a global scale? The worship of demons? It would seem that Genesis implies that this might be so...

Genesis 6:1-5 (ESV)
1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
5 The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Aquila

All Jesus said was that angels don't marry, nor are they given in marriage. Jesus said nothing about existing limits of their abilities. Too many people read too much into the text. The subject was marriage in the resurrection.

Brother, is marriage a physical union?

Do 2 become 1 flesh?

How?


Never mind, not on AFF...LOL

[Lafon]

thephnxman

If anyone really believes that disobedient angels can stand "before the throne of heaven", then they don't really
know as much as they think they do. Surely, they could not have come to that conclusion by the Holy Spirit!

Does Satan currently have access to the throne of God in the heavens?

Is he not one of the "disobedient angels"?

Does not the words of Revelation 12:10 plainly state that Satan currently enjoys access to the throne of God in the heavens, where there he appears "day and night" to accuse the brethren?

Just who is amiss in their understanding about this matter? Apparently, if one is to depend uopon the writings of the sacred Scriptures above the words of mortals, then according to the words of Revelation 20:10 I would be compelled to state that it is YOU who doesn't know as much as YOU think you do!

Yea, "...let God be true, but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4).

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Lafon

thephnxman
Does Satan currently have access to the throne of God in the heavens?
Is he not one of the "disobedient angels"?
Does not the words of Revelation 12:10 plainly state that Satan currently enjoys access to the throne of God in the heavens, where there he appears "day and night" to accuse the brethren?
Just who is amiss in their understanding about this matter? Apparently, if one is to depend uopon the writings of the sacred Scriptures above the words of mortals, then according to the words of Revelation 20:10 I would be compelled to state that it is YOU who doesn't know as much as YOU think you do!
Yea, "...let God be true, but every man a liar" (Romans 3:4).

No, Satan does not have access to God's throne, and Rev. 12:10 DOES NOT "plainly state" that he does.
Otherwise I would have plainly read "throne of God" in the verse.

Yes, Satan is one of the "disobedient angels".

Again, an emphatic no: Satan is not before God's throne even for a second, nor can he be. Fact is, I
don't believe Satan will even be before the Lord's Throne at the judgment! You see, "...the prince of this
world is judged. "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where
the beast and the false prophet are...".

I have stated that there were no "laws" in eternity by which to judge Lucifer (now called satan or the devil):
none "Thou shalt's", nor any "There shalt not's". There is only one eternal law that I can see: the Law of Holiness.
A man called to be a prophet stood before the Lord: he was "...a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of
a people of unclean lips...". But an a seraphim touched the man's lips with a live coal from the altar. Look, the live
coal was handled with tongs and touched the man's lips so that "...thine iniquity is taken away, and thy
sins purged." Can you see how much more wonderful is our calling than that of the angels? Can you see that
iniquity has to be taken out of the way for anyone (including the devil) to be able to be before God?

How, then, does Satan accuse the brethren all day? To our face! What is temptation and seduction, but Satan accusing us:
saying we are not worthy, or wanting us to deny the Word that beget us? Satan can NOT get closer to God than accusing the
church of iniquity and sin! Or have we forgotten: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Yes. "...let God be true...; and let every man's iniquity be taken outof the way, and his sins purged."