obama's Speech Last Night

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Since when have you paid attention to anything that socialist Moore says?

Can't hardly ignore the truth, even spoken once.

Very impressed, also, with Democrat Senator Joe Manchin:

KRYSTAL BALL: So, senator, does that mean that you are unlikely to vote for authorization to train and arm rebels there in Syria?

JOE MANCHIN: I have -- right now, I can't do that. I cannot support arming the rebels who we have not been able to identify. The last I heard about the rebels in Syria, these are the same people, maybe, who sold one of our correspondents who got their head cut off. I’m just saying, it's a very unstable situation. We have proven for the last 12 years that people we have trained, people we have clothed, people we have fed, people we have armed turn those arms against us. I just don't -- I just don't see the end game here unless those people, basically the nation, Arab nations from that part of the world who have plenty of resources, plenty of wealth, plenty of expertise, plenty of arms that are right next door that could be training these rebels, why shouldn't they be doing it? Why do we have to do it?

TAURE: Senator, I too, don't understand what the end game is for this campaign that we're about to launch. I assume you are uncomfortable, once again, going to war without a clearly defined end point.

MANCHIN: Absolutely. Now, here's what. I support whole heartedly, and I think our mission should be very clear to everybody in the world. If you plan to do harm, if you're training to do harm, if you're preparing to do harm to America or Americans anywhere you are, we have the right to come and get you. And we'll do it. We have the tactical, technicians, special ops. We have the air force, we have the drones, and we’ll have all of the technology available to us. We do not have to put men and women from America in harm's way any more than must be in order for us to protect America. With that being said, that part of the world has to be willing to fight and die for themselves. They have to have some identity to them. They have to have input to this. They can't say the Americans will come and do it all. Then we'll blame the Americans and we'll fault them for choosing sides. You know, they said, well, you've chose the shiites over the Sunni. The Sunnis made ISIL the threat they are today. We’re still going to have terrorists. And I don't think there's going to be a time in our life, your life or your children's lives we won't have terrorists in the world that we have to be concerned about. And I have to be convinced there's a direct threat.
I believe ISIL is a threat to the United States of America. I’ve gone to all the Intel, the secured briefings, I just came from a noon Intel briefing, I’m getting all the knowledge and all the information I possibly can to make an informed decision. I’m just not sold that it is the right direction for us to go since we have a history and a track record that for 12 years we tried this. We tried this.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...game_here.html

[Evang.Benincasa]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Anyone remember this picture?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Affirmative action?


Dude, he was re-elected by the individual choice of the majority of Americans-- not by some program.

"Dude," yes, affirmative action. You know, the action where a lesser qualified, less skilled, less capable minority is hired over a better qualified, more skilled and more capable white person.

The day of and after the election specials running on CNN, FoxNews and other broadcasts showed overwhelmingly that people voted for obama because he was black and they wanted to make "history." He wasn't elected because he was the better candidate. He wasn't elected because he was more intelligent. He wasn't elected for his experience.

His skin color is the only reason he was elected in 2008.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

As for freebies?
What freebies?

By freebies, I mean the whole range of government handouts, welfare and unemployment benefits expanded under this administration.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

How come all GOP pundits and major polls didn't pick up at on the "freebies" theory BEFORE they declared a victory for Romney? The freebies argument is nonsense-- an attempt to explain away the failure of the GOP establishment to win a campaign that should have been easy to win, given their acerbic and relentless criticisms of everything Obama ever breathed on during the first 4 years of Obama's Presidency.

Remember the video of Romney saying 47% of the US was reliant and dependant on the government. You must have forgotten about that. Most point to that video as the reason Romney lost the election.

But it was true.

[n david]

Originally Posted by n david

1) I've "never, ever addressed" it because I never heard of it. 2)Post the source of your claim because I haven't read of that either.

Bump

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

His skin color is the only reason he was elected in 2008.

Will it also be Hillary's gender which will get her in office for 2016?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Will it also be Hillary's gender which will get her in office for 2016?

I wouldn't be surprised. People like to be a part of history.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

I wouldn't be surprised. People like to be a part of history.

You really think making Obama the first black president was their motivation for voting him into office?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You really think making Obama the first black president was their motivation for voting him into office?

Based off footage from CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, FoxNews doing interviews of people who voted and hearing the #1 reason was "to make history" by voting for the first black President. Absolutely. There were even people who had never voted before, who admitted to know nothing about the race and who still voted for obama just to make history. One guy said he had to do so, because he didn't want his kids finding out years later when they were older that he didn't vote for the first black President.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Based off footage from CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, FoxNews doing interviews of people who voted and hearing the #1 reason was "to make history" by voting for the first black President. Absolutely. There were even people who had never voted before, who admitted to know nothing about the race and who still voted for obama just to make history. One guy said he had to do so, because he didn't want his kids finding out years later when they were older that he didn't vote for the first black President.

So, more emphasis on making history, instead of putting a black man in the White House?

Meaning having absolutely no idea they're even going to make history but just that they would elect a black president?

I remember when some people went head over heels with Sarah Palin when see was running because they believed she was a modern day Ether. Wanting to see her in the White House because she was "Pentecostal?"