Is This the Mark of the Beast?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I think that it is interesting the comparison of the book of Revelation to the children of Israel's Exodus. There are so many parallels in Revelation that indeed are similar to the Exodus, that it certainly bears some studying out. Yet I don't think anyone will ever be able to predict, or know for sure how all these things will eventually take place.

And, implantation of a chip, is wrong, and this goes beyond believing what the book of Revelation speaks of. It really ties in to a massive destruction of personal privacy, and once that boundary is crossed, there is no telling how science would try to manipulate one through the use of the chip. It is something we should stand against, I believe.

Well, whatever the end result is, we must be ready for a cashless society someday. There is definitely the means to make it happen. When that happens, the govt. will be able to monitor transactions and who can or cannot use the system...welcome to the book of Revelation folks...

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The Apocalypse is a series visions giving truth in the form of signs and symbols. The "mark of the beast" is thus sign and symbol of a spiritual reality.

Microchips for human control are a SYMPTOM of the spiritual evil represented by the mark, but the mark is not "the implantable microchip".

If you really study what a "phylactery" is you'd have a good idea what the mark represents...

Exactly!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

I think that it is interesting the comparison of the book of Revelation to the children of Israel's Exodus. There are so many parallels in Revelation that indeed are similar to the Exodus, that it certainly bears some studying out. Yet I don't think anyone will ever be able to predict, or know for sure how all these things will eventually take place.

And, implantation of a chip, is wrong, and this goes beyond believing what the book of Revelation speaks of. It really ties in to a massive destruction of personal privacy, and once that boundary is crossed, there is no telling how science would try to manipulate one through the use of the chip. It is something we should stand against, I believe.

This is the problem I have with the entire futurist camp. The impression it puts upon us concerning the book of Revelation. Revelation is not supposed to be hidden as though we will never really know until it all pans out. That is far from the purpose of even calling it REVELATION. Revelation is a revealing. Unveiling. Disclosing. God would not purposely put something in His word, call it revelation, only for us to never know what it means or foretells til it happens. That is what futurism does to us, not God's Word. Something is wrong with a system of interpretation that leaves us thinking the opposite from what the title itself relates.

[shazeep]

ty.

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Sean

The chip could be the MARK . It is getting smaller and more powerful as time goes by. In the history of mankind, there has never been a worldwide, or even regional system in place that could even remotely control buying and selling. But in the days we live in, it could be done, by way of a cashless society and RFID in the world combined. It may not be the FINAL mark, but Who knows, maybe it is!

I love it... For something deemed so important. It's always brought up, this could be. If prophecy is a warning shouldn't it be clear?

[Sasha]

I don't believe in a literal mark. I also believe that in order to have 'a mark of the beast', one will know what it is they are receiving.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Revelationist

I love it... For something deemed so important. It's always brought up, this could be. If prophecy is a warning shouldn't it be clear?

Brother, as regarding the mark of the Beast, when it is clear to all....IT IS TOO LATE!!!

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by mfblume

This is the problem I have with the entire futurist camp. The impression it puts upon us concerning the book of Revelation. Revelation is not supposed to be hidden as though we will never really know until it all pans out. That is far from the purpose of even calling it REVELATION. Revelation is a revealing. Unveiling. Disclosing. God would not purposely put something in His word, call it revelation, only for us to never know what it means or foretells til it happens. That is what futurism does to us, not God's Word. Something is wrong with a system of interpretation that leaves us thinking the opposite from what the title itself relates.

Perhaps. But, Jesus did say, no man knows the day nor the hour. If the book of Revelation is a revealing, than that is contradictory to this statement of Jesus. And, all the writers of the NT, especially Paul taught the saints to be prepared every day for the return of Jesus. So, they anticipated seeing the resurrection of the dead and return of Jesus even in their time. So, I don't know. I don't place all my eggs in one basket, but rather, I try to live with the understanding that we may not know the day or the hour, but when the time comes to know, it is then we will know.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Perhaps. But, Jesus did say, no man knows the day nor the hour. If the book of Revelation is a revealing, than that is contradictory to this statement of Jesus. And, all the writers of the NT, especially Paul taught the saints to be prepared every day for the return of Jesus. So, they anticipated seeing the resurrection of the dead and return of Jesus even in their time. So, I don't know. I don't place all my eggs in one basket, but rather, I try to live with the understanding that we may not know the day or the hour, but when the time comes to know, it is then we will know.

Just please make sure to get the bacon in there along with them.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Just please make sure to get the bacon in there along with them.

GO eat your raw eggs and bacon please! LOL...