Social drinking?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Yea or Nay?

Of course y'all know how I would feel. Do you find it acceptable?

Nay, might lead to dancing!!

[crakjak]

Seriously, don't think you can honestly and scripturally teach that in moderation it is sin, however, the association and cultural consequences don't make it attractive for a Christian, in my opinion.

When you've seen someone you love struggle with addiction, it doesn't make you want to give any place for it.

[houston]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Nay, might lead to dancing!!

We're having a party,
dancing to the music
played by the D.J.
on the radio
The Cokes are in the icebox,
popcorn's on the table
Me and my baby, yeah,
we're out here on the floor, oh yeah

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by houston

We're having a party,
dancing to the music
played by the D.J.
on the radio
The Cokes are in the icebox,
popcorn's on the table
Me and my baby, yeah,
we're out here on the floor, oh yeah

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Sis. Alvear, thank you for posting the writing by David Wilkerson on the subject at hand. Coming from a man who worked to help people with addictions, his thoughts should indeed be taken seriously. Perhaps he misrepresented some scriptures to bring forth his point, but many do that all the time for less serious matters. His heart certainly was distressed at the outcomes that alcohol bring to any situation.

The Bible does not lay out specific applications for every situation that we encounter, yet there are basic principles within the Word that we can apply to a situation, as well as being led by the Spirit.

Certainly there are very strong words in the Bible for drunkenness. I know quite a few people whose bodies can tolerate a lot of alcohol without noticeable effect, and others who cannot take but a few sips who come under the influence obviously. This is where it becomes a personal matter for each one of us, and honestly as children of God, we must seek to always honor the Lord in all we do.

It has been our family's decision that refraining from drinking at all is the best way for our family to handle alcohol. I don't want to expose my children to something that could become a burden that they have to carry for the rest of their lives. There is no way to know who can handle alcohol, and who can't, until that door is opened. Our family has chosen to keep that door shut, while at the same time explaining our reasoning to our children, showing them the family member, friends, and acquaintances who opened that door, and could not shut it, and the sad, sad brokenness that has resulted because of a drink here and there.

As Sean has pointed out... indulging in a little fleshly satisfaction with a drink or two may not hurt you or the next person, but what if your child takes a drink, and finds it a burden and a monkey on their back that won't go away. That would cause me sorrow for the rest of my life. I would rather abstain, than to open a door that causes someone I love to carry a burden for the rest of their lives.

I agree with 100% of this post.

Originally Posted by Sean

No, I just think this was part of a Nazarite vow, like John the Baptist had, and he took it seriously.

In a type brethren, WE have a Nazarite vow on us also....The Holy Ghost moves on us like it did on John!

Nazarite? Jesus was a Nazarene; not a Nazarite. Two very different labels.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree with 100% of this post.



Nazarite? Jesus was a Nazarene; not a Nazarite. Two very different labels.

No , the Nazarite vow was even for Sampson, they were not to taste wine or strong drink...John had the vow...Jesus must have had it also, by his refusal to drink vinegar(wine) at the cross. This has nothing to do with where you come from.



Nazarite, [N] [E] [H]
more properly Nazirite (one separated ), one of either sex who was bound by a vow of a peculiar kind to be set apart from others for the service of God. The obligation was either for life or for a defined time. There is no notice in the Pentateuch of Nazarites for life; but the regulations for the vow of a Nazarite of days are given. ( Numbers 6:1-21 ) The Nazarite, during-the term of has consecration, was bound to abstain from wine grapes, with every production of the vine and from every kind of intoxicating drink. He was forbidden to cut the hair of his head, or to approach any dead body, even that of his nearest relation. When the period of his vow was fulfilled he was brought to the door of the tabernacle, and was required to offer a he lamb for a burnt offering, a ewe lamb for a sin offering, and a ram for a peace offering, with the usual accompaniments of peace offerings, ( Leviticus 7:12 Leviticus 7:13 ) and of the offering made at the consecration of priests. ( Exodus 29:2 ; Numbers 6:15 ) He brought also a meat offering and a drink offering, which appear to have been presented by themselves as a distinct act of service. ver. ( Numbers 6:17 ) He was to cut off the hair of "the head of his separation "(that is, the hair which had grown during the period of his consecration) at the door of the tabernacle, and to put it into the fire under the sacrifice on the altar. Of the Nazarites for life three are mentioned in the Scriptures --Samson, Samuel and St. John the Baptist. The only one of these actually called a Nazarite is Samson. We do not know whether the vow for life was ever voluntarily taken by the individual. In all the cases mentioned in the sacred history, it was made by the parents before the birth of the Nazarite himself. The consecration of the Nazarite bore a striking resemblance to that of the nigh priest. ( Leviticus 21:10-12 ) The meaning of the Nazarite vow has been regarded in different lights. It may be regarded as an act of self-sacrifice, That it was essentially a sacrifice of the person to the Lord is obviously in accordance with the terms of the law. ( Numbers 6:2 ) As the Nazarite was a witness for the straitness of the law, as distinguished from the freedom of the gospel, his sacrifice of himself was a submission to the letter of the rule. Its outward manifestations were restraints and eccentricities. The man was separated from his brethren that he might be peculiarly devoted to the Lord. This was consistent with the purpose of divine wisdom for the time for which it was ordained.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

So since we have a nazarite vow on us, I dont have to cut my hair anymore

That "extra" vow was only for Sampson

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Sean

No , the Nazarite vow was even for Sampson, they were not to taste wine or strong drink...John had the vow...Jesus must have had it also, by his refusal to drink vinegar(wine) at the cross. This has nothing to do with where you come from..

I know what the Nazarite vow is, and it's quite an inference to assume Jesus was a Nazarite based solely on his refusal to drink what was essentially a pain killer, don't you think? Where in scripture does it ever state that Jesus took the Nazarite vow? Further, the fact that people called Jesus a glutton and a "winebibber" implies that He drank wine or grape juice with His meals. Either one was forbidden to a Nazarite, regardless of whether it was fermented.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Sean

That "extra" vow was only for Sampson

Where are you getting your information? The refraining from cutting one's hair was for anyone. A person who had taken the Nazarite vow ended their time of consecration by shaving their head, among other things.

[KeptByTheWord]

To my knowledge, I can think of no scripture that says Jesus took a Nazarene or Nazarite vow.