Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/14 - Page 26

Steve Epley · #**251** 08-26-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

Why not just say that then? Why the need for the innuendo and ambiguity? Just say "SP's has become a carnal, backslidden heathen who's saints will soon be wearing speedos and bikinis and drinking socially."

I understand some this is already happening?

Evang.Benincasa · #**252** 08-26-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

Do you not like/agree with the book or its author?

I read the book a long time ago. It was given to me by a sister in the church.
When I was beginning the book I was sitting in a pastor's home, and his wife was shocked that I was reading it. She told me how I should spit on every page. I pondered her words, but I am never one to discard information without investigation. It is like people who get upset with certain teachings men hold, and have a problem with the man because they "heard" something. There are only two parties who really know anything, the preacher, and the congregants who have been with him for years.

Not disgruntled congregants, because they tend to give a view that will blow your mind, where you will think to yourself "this is so bad, it can't be true. Whether it's true or not, it still has to be investigated thoroughly before judgement is served. Now, don't get me wrong there are books which you can read the first three pages or even the forward and see that for the rest of the book you will be wading through the deep mud of agenda, and personal feelings which obscure any of the writer's objectiveness.

Neo-Phariseeism was birthed from DW's issue with his organization (again my opinion) and his desire to allow all who would be interested in his own view on the subject. Pendulum Extremes was book 2 to the first.

n david · #**253** 08-26-2014, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I understand some this is already happening?

Hopefully it wasn't SP in a speedo!

And I'm not going to ask for pics as proof, either!

***Edit...wow, just saw a typo. WASN'T...WAS NOT!

Evang.Benincasa · #**254** 08-26-2014, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1

I think you are confusing two things. There doesn't have to be a specific sin committed for ultra cons to believe that saints should leave a church who is moving away from the legalism they hold so dear and believe is salvational.

Legalism?

You don't think there are liberals who are legalistic?

*AQuietPlace* · #**255** 08-26-2014, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I understand some this is already happening?

I "understand". In my opinion, you shouldn't make statements to that effect AT ALL, unless you KNOW. Otherwise, it is that thing called gossip.

n david · #**256** 08-26-2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I read the book a long time ago. It was given to me by a sister in the church.
When I was beginning the book I was sitting in a pastor's home, and his wife was shocked that I was reading it. She told me how I should spit on every page. I pondered her words, but I am never one to discard information without investigation. It is like people who get upset with certain teachings men hold, and have a problem with the man because they "heard" something. There are only two parties who really know anything, the preacher, and the congregants who have been with him for years.

Not disgruntled congregants, because they tend to give a view that will blow your mind, where you will think to yourself "this is so bad, it can't be true. Whether it's true or not, it still has to be investigated thoroughly before judgement is served. Now, don't get me wrong there are books which you can read the first three pages or even the forward and see that for the rest of the book you will be wading through the deep mud of agenda, and personal feelings which obscure any of the writer's objectiveness.

Neo-Phariseeism was birthed from DW's issue with his organization (again my opinion) and his desire to allow all who would be interested in his own view on the subject. Pendulum Extremes was book 2 to the first.

My father received a free copy of the book when it first was released. It was thrown away, unfortunately.

I haven't read it myself, though I'd like to. I've heard that the book was misrepresented as being a slam against the UPC.

DW was pastoring in Atlanta over a decade ago. I don't believe he is now though. I visited his church once and enjoying speaking with him after the service.

Steve Epley · #**257** 08-26-2014, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I "understand". In my opinion, you shouldn't make statements to that effect AT ALL, unless you KNOW. Otherwise, it is that thing called gossip.

Whatever.

CC1 · #**258** 08-26-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

My father received a free copy of the book when it first was released. It was thrown away, unfortunately.

I haven't read it myself, though I'd like to. I've heard that the book was misrepresented as being a slam against the UPC.

DW was pastoring in Atlanta over a decade ago. I don't believe he is now though. I visited his church once and enjoying speaking with him after the service.

You are in luck!

http://www.wordonwings.com/wow-bookstore/index.html