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Old 07-12-2014, 03:37 PM
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Re: What About The Children???

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So you are saying that since Obama has been President, the House of Representatives has presented a bill aimed at fixing the Immigration system?

I know Senator Rubio led a bi-partisan effort in the Senate, but his efforts were reviled rather harshly.
Obama is a bad President. Of that I am convinced more and more. I never jumped on the bandwagon of whether or not he was really born in the US or not.

I had a wait and see attitude.

I wanted Obama Care to be successful but my fear was it was such an incoherent and convoluted bill that it would fail and it has

I was watching an episode of DS 9 last night. Nog and Jake were on a Star ship captained by a training cadet who took over after the real captain died.

He vowed to continue the original mission when it was clear they did not have to. That mission was to find a Cardassian ship that was a new kind of ship, gather data and then report back to Star Fleet (this may be foreign to you if you never watched Star Trek)

Well, they found the ship and collected data but this captain decided they found a weakness they could exploit and destroy the ship. It looked dire. He was warned it was dangerous. His crew was made up of young cadets who were all field promoted with the real crew died.

When they finally saw the ship they all realized they were in over their heads but the Captain did not care

Short story, the captain died as did most of the crew. Jake, Nog and a young female cadet escaped

Jake is a reporter and he asked Nog, what should he put in his story?

Nog asks if Jake plans to write about the incident. When Jake says he probably will, Nog asks him to write that the Valiant was a good ship, with a good crew, whose only mistake was following Captain Watters as he led them "over a cliff." From her sickbed, Collins objects, saying that Watters was a great man, and if the mission failed, it was the crew that ultimately failed him. Nog tells Jake to include both opinions, and let people decide for themselves. Nog himself, however, has reached his own judgment: he returns his Red Squad insignia to Dorian, telling her that while Watters might have been a great man, he was a bad captain.

"He may have been a hero... he may even have been a great man... but in the end, he was a bad captain."

That's how I feel about Obama. You remind me of of Dorian who was taken up in the Charisma of her captain.

He is a bad president
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Old 07-12-2014, 03:49 PM
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Good point.

However, my response was based on the trivialness of his post in the first place and besides, that wasn't all I wrote.
It doesn't matter if that wasn't all you said

Your messages get lost when you do that
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:28 PM
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It doesn't matter if that wasn't all you said

Your messages get lost when you do that
Ok.
Thank you.
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:57 AM
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I live in Arizona and this is, obviously, a huge topic here. Thing is, it's also a hugely complex situation that is not being given justice by the press. We've got a combination of factors going on here: rapidly increasing violence in Guatemala and Honduras, so much so that cartel violence in Mexico pales in comparison, human smugglers (coyotes) taking advantage of the chaos to make money, and families desperate to get their kids out of a bad situation. To me the obvious thing would be to work on the situation in the home countries to improve it, but that has its problems as well.

So then we get people like my state senator, running for re-election, who talks about how we just basically need to wire the border to keep "them" from coming in. It's apparent that this particular state senator hasn't been down to the mountainous areas of the border, because they're hard to get to! Besides, and this is the more important point, control of the border is a federal function, not a state function, and Arizona's been smacked down more than once on this very point.

And I'd been thinking of re-registering as a Republican so I could vote for this guy in the primary, because some guy is running to his right and the other guy is craaaazy. I may still do that. But it bothers me that this guy is throwing out red meat to his constituents. Politicians don't do nuance very well, obviously.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:50 AM
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I live in Arizona and this is, obviously, a huge topic here. Thing is, it's also a hugely complex situation that is not being given justice by the press. We've got a combination of factors going on here: rapidly increasing violence in Guatemala and Honduras, so much so that cartel violence in Mexico pales in comparison, human smugglers (coyotes) taking advantage of the chaos to make money, and families desperate to get their kids out of a bad situation. To me the obvious thing would be to work on the situation in the home countries to improve it, but that has its problems as well.

So then we get people like my state senator, running for re-election, who talks about how we just basically need to wire the border to keep "them" from coming in. It's apparent that this particular state senator hasn't been down to the mountainous areas of the border, because they're hard to get to! Besides, and this is the more important point, control of the border is a federal function, not a state function, and Arizona's been smacked down more than once on this very point.

And I'd been thinking of re-registering as a Republican so I could vote for this guy in the primary, because some guy is running to his right and the other guy is craaaazy. I may still do that. But it bothers me that this guy is throwing out red meat to his constituents. Politicians don't do nuance very well, obviously.
I believe this "crisis" was generated by this Administration.

Border Crisis: Why Are the Kids Coming to America?

We also learned that a so-called "perfect storm" of events has led thousands of families to choose now to send their children across the border.

We met "Maribel" in the Guatemalan consulate in McAllen. She was attempting to pick up her friends' detained children after they received a call from Border Patrol.

"Maribel" said the parents recently paid a smuggler after hearing that that Border Patrol would release kids to their parents in the United States.

"The parents started to say, 'Okay, this is the time,'" she explained. "Because everybody thinks it's easy."

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2014/J...ng-to-America/
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Is Sending the Military to the Border a Good Idea?

Carafano: Sure. Many times over the country’s history troops have been dispatched to help restore stability and sovereignty on the border, particularly on the boundary with the U.S. and Mexico.

Question: Doesn’t Posse Comitatus prohibit the use of troops on the border?

Carafano: The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act (amended many times) limits the use of the armed forces in conducting law enforcement activities. Federal military forces can do many activities on the border that are not restricted under the act. Further, National Guard forces can be mobilized in one of three statuses. They can serve as “State Duty,” where they operate under the direction of the governor. In addition, they can be mobilized under “Title 32,” where they remain under the command of the governor, but the federal government funds training and operations. They also can be mobilized as “Title 10” forces, where they are, from a legal standpoint, indistinguishable from active-duty military. If National Guard troops are deployed to border areas either under State Duty or Title 32 status, Posse Comitatus does not apply.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/07/16/se..._medium=social
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Old 07-16-2014, 05:57 PM
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This Is Exactly How Central Americans Illegally Cross the Mexico-Texas Border

(3 short videos)

“Welcome to America,” Border Patrol agent Albert Spratte says.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/07/16/im..._medium=social
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