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06-11-2014, 05:45 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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My Brother I say this with kindness why wouldn't you just shave? You speak of will but there you too have a will.
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I just can't understand the need to make men shave, even to "test" their consecration. There are enough biblical mandates that do precisely that without having to add to the Word.
I really can't wrap my head around this issue. The main problem for me is that there's not a shred of scripture to back it up. It would be like making women wearing pantyhose a point of fellowship, and then calling it rebellion or a bad attitude if they don't want to wear them all the time (especially talking about women outside your own congregation, ministers' wives, other people's saints). It's that arbitrary and extraneous to Christian living.
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06-11-2014, 05:46 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
Good grief, a hundred years since Azuza and we're talking about facial hair.
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06-11-2014, 06:06 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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Here is how it works here and those I fellowship. If a guy wants facial hair I have many Pentecostal neighbors that would be glad to have them. They can go there. Very simple. If a preacher wants to fellowship guys who promote facial hair fine with me but I am not going to. Just not having it here if a man claims to be a member. By the way all these years it has never been a problem I can't remember losing one man over this issue. I have been honest never told them it was a sin but a decision I have made and I am not going to change. Never mistreated anyone with facial hair and not going to start.
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If you don't allow someone with a beard to be used in church then you are are mistreating them.
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06-11-2014, 06:08 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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I can honestly say I have never approached anyone about this issue I have had them approach me noticing we are all clean shaven and I have told them just what I said here. Never has been a problem. We have visitors all time with beards I have never insulted them. No I would not preach for a man that had a beard unless the Lord told me to.
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Did the Lord tell you to not preach for them? Did he tell you to teach against hair?
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
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06-11-2014, 06:13 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
I wonder what sin having a beard leads to? It must be some sort of protection to be clean shaven, right? From????
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06-11-2014, 06:20 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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Michael, guess you need not ever visit any of these men. Sad. Very sad to separate from those of like precious faith over facial hair.
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That's what the no facial hair preacher do. Dividing the body of Christ over hair on the face.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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06-11-2014, 06:21 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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I wonder what sin having a beard leads to? It must be some sort of protection to be clean shaven, right? From????
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Leads to no gender distinction? Isn't that why God put facial hair on men and not women?
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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06-11-2014, 06:37 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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I wonder what sin having a beard leads to? It must be some sort of protection to be clean shaven, right? From????
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Like uncut hair on women is protection?
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06-11-2014, 06:53 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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Leads to no gender distinction? Isn't that why God put facial hair on men and not women?
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No! God wants men to look like GIRLS! Sheesh, some people!
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06-11-2014, 06:54 PM
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Re: Marty Ballestero doesn't LIKE facial hair on m
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Like uncut hair on women is protection?
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Yes. You see, separation from the world is what them standards is about, right? So, whutzit pertectin em from?
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