End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[rdp]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It's duly noted that YOU didn't respond with an explanation either.

I'm just asking about consistency. If a literal view is taken, it must be applied consistently. Do you take the same stance on single men in the ministry that you do on women in the ministry? If not, why not?

Silly. Where does Paul forbid single men from preaching-teaching in the church:____________? He doesn't (ummmm, know ye not that Paul {& Jesus} was single ?) - That interpretation is supplied by the pro "women-preachers" crowd.


Will elaborate further later tonight on the grammar of the text y'all rip from its context & intended meaning .

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by rdp

Silly. Where does Paul forbid single men from preaching-teaching in the church:____________? He doesn't (ummmm, know ye not that Paul {& Jesus} was single ?) - That interpretation is supplied by the pro "women-preachers" crowd.


Will elaborate further later tonight on the grammar of the text y'all rip from its context & intended meaning .

rdp, if the phrase "husband of one wife" handily forbids women from ministry, then it also disqualifies single men from ministry, since a single man has no wife.

So I'm taking your response to mean that you don't agree that single men can't be bishops/elders/deacons?

Literal interpretations need to be consistent, or they lose credibility. I think that taking this passage literally is actually a valid interpretation, even though I don't agree with that particular take. However, it's only a respectable view if it's consistent and not interpreted only to the benefit of a certain stance.

[MissBrattified]

Here's an example of correct post formatting. I put spaces in, so you can actually see the script that separates everything nicely--and hopefully learn how to use it.

[Q UOTE=Sister Alvear;1301865]The church and the home are two seperate things. Of course authoritu to some of our friends only means LORDS over God's heritage![/q uote]


Sorry - Try again: "For if a man cannot manage his own household, how can he take care of God's church?"


The home is to be a reflection of the church - next?


And, what happened to your "non-insulting" post only a couple of hours ago? You just infered we were "lord's over God's heritage" - so good to know you're not "insulting" !?



[q uote]Deborah judged both men and women. Phoebe was a Spiritual intity in Paul's life Romans 16:1[/q uote]


LOL - Now you have reduced Phoebe from being a "ruler" over Paul to a mere "entity Paul's life"?? Keep demoting her from where you previously exalted her & eventually she'll find her Biblical place !


[q uote]Aquila AND Priscilla taught a man (Apollos). Half of the ministers Paul recognized in Romans 16 were women![/Q UOTE]


Assumption alert! Just because Paul mentions someone's name does not automatically make them "ministers" - plumb silly.


Next?

[pilgram]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

rdp, if the phrase "husband of one wife" handily forbids women from ministry, then it also disqualifies single men from ministry, since a single man has no wife.

So I'm taking your response to mean that you don't agree that single men can't be bishops/elders/deacons?

Literal interpretations need to be consistent, or they lose credibility. I think that taking this passage literally is actually a valid interpretation, even though I don't agree with that particular take. However, it's only a respectable view if it's consistent and not interpreted only to the benefit of a certain stance.

Actually it's common sense and goes without saying that if a man isn't married the "husband of one wife" wouldn't apply now would it?
The writer (Paul) assumes that the reader has enough common sense to realize that. Apparently you come up short in that department.

[Sister Alvear]

Never in all my life have I seen "supposed men of God" calling people silly...so degrading...
I have debated Assembly of God pastors in Brazil, Brazilian national pastors of national works and several times Branhamites and even sat in on a JW elders meeting where they let me ask questions...never did I see such a spirit...

I have little access to the internet but may have better access for a few hours...however I am ashamed to say that the men above are Jesus name oneness men...

The first church went everywhere preaching the word...so should we....Jesus said, Go Ye into all the world and preach...so let us go and annouce Jesus to every man, woman. boy and girl.....

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Never in all my life have I seen "supposed men of God" calling people silly...so degrading...
I have debated Assembly of God pastors in Brazil, Brazilian national pastors of national works and several times Branhamites and even sat in on a JW elders meeting where they let me ask questions...never did I see such a spirit...

I have little access to the internet but may have better access for a few hours...however I am ashamed to say that the men above are Jesus name oneness men...

The first church went everywhere preaching the word...so should we....Jesus said, Go Ye into all the world and preach...so let us go and annouce Jesus to every man, woman. boy and girl.....

Not that my opinion on an Apostolic forum matters, but I wish all the blessings that the Lord has for your ministry as you seek to serve Him. None of our doctrine is perfect, but He is and whom we put our trust.

[Sister Alvear]

Thanks friend...
Something I always say, Judgment day wil tell a lot of stories...Just want to keep my heart pure and full of God's love and be forever engaged in bringing His lost family back home...

[Sister Alvear]

Not one of those lepers seemd to mind I was a woman...in fact I was the first person with our message that ever walked into their colony...some of the lepers asked me how long our religion had been around....
A drowing man does not care who throws him the rope...

[Sister Alvear]

If Paul had meant 1 Timothy 2 to apply to women (or females) in general, there was clearly a way in Greek to have done so. But the fact that he deliberately chose words that primarily translate in the New Testament as “husband” and “wife” seems to indicate a restricted meaning and application in these passages.

Paul knew the greek language....just like I know Portuguese ...he knew who he was talking to...

[Sister Alvear]

2 Timothy 3:2, 12 and Titus 1:6, both of which teach that elders, deacons and other church leaders are to be "the husband of one wife". As we discussed earlier, all Scripture must be interpreted in light of Scripture as a whole. With this in mind, if these verses were intended to be an absolute command that only married men are permitted to be church leaders, then Paul himself would be disqualified, as he was unmarried (2 Corinthians 9:5). If the title of "deacon" was solely reserved for men, how do we explain a lady named Phoebe, who is called a "servant of God" since the Greek word translated "servant" is diakonos, which is where we get the word "deacon?"