End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Esther

Did you not read where it said "THEY" taught, so she must have taught instead of serving.

Originally Posted by rdp

"Did YOU not read" the following:


11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by RJR

Did you forget to post your scripture?

But I see you are ignoring one scripture and choosing another.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

Oh how absolutely judgmental of You". Or should I say how absolutely arrogant of You, to assume You have the proper interpretation of scripture and everyone that disagrees with you is wrong.

My point of prayer is with seeking truth in prayer you would know God calls anyone He wants into ministry and for you to say He doesn't is very ignorant.

I KNOW God calls women into the ministry. And I know He said pray for labors. What do you think they labors were to do?

The arrogance is your alone. You have revealed, once again, the same arrogance with your second sentence.

You do not KNOW God calls women to preach. It is an emotional appeal that has been revealed time and time again. God does NOT contradict His word.

To help you with your arrogance and ignorance laborers were to bring in the harvest - you know, witnessing. God has set elders over that harvest - the ministry. How many times has it been said that ALL are to witness? That ALL should seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit. To many times to count. All this does is reveal the willful ignorance and discernment between feeding the flock and witnessing. You have once again revealed why women should never be allowed in ministry. There is a serious lack of exegesis and a complete reliance upon emotion.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

I have tried to be kind but this is stupid.
How many times has it been said that everyone should seek to win the lost and seek to be used in the gifts of the Spirit? To many to count!

This is another object lesson as to why women should not try to feed the flock of God. This reliance upon appeals to emotion is shameful. It is a poor attempt at castigating men that have taken a stand for the word of God. It is a poor attempt to paint them as unconcerned about souls and is nothing short of a lie. Please document where anyone said a woman should not witness about Jesus.

Where in the Bible does it say women cannot feed the flock of God? Did you know that when Jesus fed the 5000, it was women feeding them? Yes, they were literally feeding the flock of God!

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by RJR

Originally, he is talking to the eleven, and there was not a woman among them. Mat. 28:16

So, since we weren't there, we can just throw out that verse because it doesn't apply to us today?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Seriously?

Strong's definition??? You apparently do not know who Kittle is. He was a Greek scholar who wrote VOLUMES on the Greek language both within scripture and the classic world around. He studied its usage throughout the empire and goes far beyond a simple Strong's definition where you pick and choose definition based upon your own predilection instead of the context.

Here is a link where you can view a little about Kittle:
http://www.amazon.com/Theological-Di.../dp/0802823246

Once again...

Everyone should witness. What is so hard to understand the difference between witnessing and feeding God's flock?

You were the one who brought up women usurping male authority. Let's keep on track here.

1. Do you believe every man has authority over every woman?

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Esther

Did you forget to post your scripture?

But I see you are ignoring one scripture and choosing another.

I am sorry, I saw where you quoted my post that had to do with Phebe. Then you referred evidently to Priscilla. What you fail to see is there is a BIG difference between witnessing and preaching.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Esther

You seen hung up about emotion. What is wrong with emotion? Perhaps you need a dose.

What is wrong with emotion is when it overrides the clear teaching of scripture. Exegesis is NOT an emotional exercise, exegesis is an exercise in factual presentation of scripture. Appeals to emotion are logical fallacies and anything can be proven when an emotional appeal is the standard.

Oh and BTW aren't you are the one that said:

Originally Posted by Esther

Even if you disagree with Sis Alvear at least be respectful.

The emotional response of "perhaps you need a dose" is disrespectful. I guess that makes you a hypocrite. You have made other emotional statements of judgment as well which is disrespectful such as:

Originally Posted by Esther

In my opinion men who have an issue with women trying to save souls do not have a burden for the lost.

How arrogant of you to suppose that I or someone who disagrees with you does not have a burden for the lost. You have once again proven why women should never be allowed to be a bishop.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Nice to know your opinion. Also, I agree with it. But your intent is against those who teach against women bishops. Therefore your intentions are due to, and this is not a pejorative, ignorance of the difference between a shepherd feeding a flock and witnessing.

How many times does it have to be said that we should all witness?

Apparently women cannot discern the difference between a shepherd feeding the flock and witnessing.

Speaking to an audience behind a pulpit does not a bishop make.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Where in the Bible does it say women cannot feed the flock of God? Did you know that when Jesus fed the 5000, it was women feeding them? Yes, they were literally feeding the flock of God!

Thank you for once again demonstrating why women are not called to be elders...

You have demonstrated it so well...