End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Oh... one more thing. What body preaches and teaches on earth??? THE BRIDE. Christ wants a Bride who is teaching, preaching, prophesying, and getting ready for His soon arrival. Am I wrong???

Does this make you a woman? Or a woman become a man since she would also be a part of the body of Christ?

[RJR]

Originally Posted by Aquila

C'mon... do we need to go on and on and on and on and on???

Women are free to teach, preach, prophesy, you name it. However, they must also be subject to their own husbands and the elders of the church. Duh...

I don't know why so many get so uptight about women preachers... in my opinion... it reeks of insecurity and reflects badly on the brethren.

I thought this was a Biblical discussion. Have you demonstrated where they could teach and preach from the scripture in a church setting? All you have demonstrated is they could be used in the gifts of the spirit and witness. Still looking for the passage where you can demonstrate what you speculate..."under the authority of their Elders?"

Is Duh... an expression of intelligence? If you want to get into that kind of contest, I will consider this the first move. I will turn the other cheek, but will not guarantee my response after that.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by RJR

Do not you know the difference between prophesy and preaching? Saul prophesied but was not a preacher. In this passage you still have not demonstrated where it says she may under proper male authority.

Was Phebe the husband of one wife? If not, she must have served and not preached. Try again!

Did you not read where it said "THEY" taught, so she must have taught instead of serving.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

These are the exact words from my friend:

Exactly! She & the others on here have been both shown & told this over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over..........& OVER!


What do they do? What "women-preachers" always do - ignore the grammar, context, syntax, exegesis, & plain biblical facts - & stubbornly plod along with their fingers in their ears.


It's called "gentle rebellion" & "sweet defiance" to God's Word (I realize you already know this) .
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I really am nothing...just a dumb woman that cannot understand according to you...that is ok...really that is all I am....however in my dumbness and in all your insults and calling me rebellious...you have not changed the call of God in my life....I will keep on telling the people about my Lord...you keep on preaching...and judgement day will reveal all things...I have no desire or intent to insult you or anyone...whether you are my friend or not I am sure you Love Him and you work for Him...Whatever personal feelings I have about those that do not believe in women preachers or any other thing for that matter will never be revealed on this or any other forum...some things are best to leave in the hands of God...
You will not find me tearing you down...keep on preaching my brother....each soul you win is one more that has escaped hell...

Nice try Sis. - But I saw through your ruse a long time ago (in more ways than you're aware of).


Here, let's briefly recap:


You've openly stated that is a "lie" to say that Bible forbids women to teach men in the church (when, in reality, the "lie" is saying the Bible does NOT explicitly state that); You've made constant slurs about us thinking Priscilla was "in the kitchen making biscuits;" You've scornfully said Priscilla wasn't "at home throwing something in the microwave;" You've said we would not listen to Huldah; etc., etc., etc.


Now, true to form, you're simply playing your usual "sweet lil' ol' lady" card in an effort to feign innocence. Sorry Sis. - We see through the smoke in mirrors.


I have repeatedly stated that I honor your sacrifices in winning the lost, your burden for souls, have even given of my personal finances to your work (in the PAST), have prayed for you (regarding several issues), etc. In fact, I have even said that I do not doubt that God called you to reach for the lost people of Brazil (which has absolutely nothing to do with teaching-preaching to men in the church).


We have told you over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over & over that you're meshing contexts of winning the lost, gifts of the Spirit with teaching-preaching to men in the church. What do you do? What you always do - ignore the biblical facts & stubbornly plod along with your fingers stuck in your ears copy-pasting the same ol' error.


Why? Because you're simply doing what you want to do in the face of Scripture that says otherwise. Hermeneutically speaking, you are another victim of Pentecost inasmuch as you appeal to your perceived experiences as a lens to interpret Scripture - when the polar opposite should be the case. Within much of Pentecost, Scripture often takes a back-seat to perceived "anointing." You need an entire paradigm-shift - but do not realize it - & will fight it to the end....Sad.



But.....God Bless anyway !

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It is written....

Acts 2:16 - 2:18
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Daughters and handmaidens shall prophesy in the NT church. If a woman desires to do anything for the Lord, she may, under proper male authority.

Romans 16:1-2
1 I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant (deaconess) of the church which is at Cenchrea:
2 That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.

Ummm, apparently you did not accurately read RJR's request - Here, let me repost it for you :

Originally Posted by RJR

Could you show us 1 Biblical passage where a woman was PREACHING from the scriptures, and it indicated they were doing so under an Elder's authority? If you cannot demonstrate what you speculate, it is simply undocumented speculation.

We're waiting patiently:___________?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It is written,

Titus 2:3 - The aged women likewise, that [they be] in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

Kinda' stopped short didn't ya':


4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It is written,

1 Corinthians 11:5 - But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

Why would Paul have a modesty standard regarding women being covered when prophesying in gatherings... if women were forbidden to speak, teach, or prophesy with men present???

Ummm, do you think that prophecy is a sermon from the Scriptures ?


If so, please demonstrate this from the actual biblical data:_________?

Originally Posted by Aquila

It is written...

Acts 21:8-9
8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.

Four daughters who prophesied.

Ummm, do you think that prophecy is a sermon from the Scriptures ?


If so, please demonstrate this from the actual biblical data:_________?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It is written...

Acts 18:24-26
24 And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.

Here we see a man by the name of Aquila (hoot!-hoot!) and his WIFE Priscilla, evangelizing and specifically teaching a man named Apollos a more perfect understanding of the way of God.

Yes, & every husband & wife who teach a home Bible study are now automatically in the official set-in office of the NT teaching-preaching Eldership - right ?



Anything to skirt the Word of God eh':


11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church.


Shall I delve back into the specific syntax of these passages (all to be COMPLETELY IGNORED of course )?

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Esther

Oh how absolutely judgmental of You". Or should I say how absolutely arrogant of You, to assume You have the proper interpretation of scripture and everyone that disagrees with you is wrong.

My point of prayer is with seeking truth in prayer you would know God calls anyone He wants into ministry and for you to say He doesn't is very ignorant.

I KNOW God calls women into the ministry. And I know He said pray for labors. What do you think they labors were to do?

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church.


Sorry - Let God be true - "I know" He doesn't call women into the "ministry" - He already said so in His Word (at least not in the sense you're talking about).


Try again !

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Esther

Did you not read where it said "THEY" taught, so she must have taught instead of serving.

"Did YOU not read" the following:


11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church.