I know he said that, and I find it ridiculous that someone would say, "Oh please don't be offended, but YOU'RE AN IDIOT. You need brain surgery!"
That's like Rep Wilson telling obama, "Hey Prez, don't be offended, but you're a liar!"
Doesn't work. The offense is there in spite of the pathetic attempt to blunt it.
Really? Why doesn't it work? Was Wilson lying? No, he was telling the truth. Obama was lying.
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I understand it's his schtick, his gimmick; however, as was said before, you would think he would mature beyond the crude and juvenile and grow up a bit by now.
But are you trying to change his personality to suit yourself? A lot of problems we feel we have with people is more us wanting them to change because we want it. If he didn't change, I wouldn't care. He has more value to him as a person than something he said and apologized for. I doubt he will ever present himself in that way again and is probably still on the phone explaining and apologizing for his remarks.
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Self-control is a fruit of the spirit. As is kindness, love, gentleness -- none of which was exhibited during that clip. He'd do well to exercise a little more of those fruits. If his "passion" is too great for him to control, he shouldn't be preaching at these conferences.
Yes, and we are ALL so kind and patient here ALL the time, aren't we? We are ALL qualified to correct JA.
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True, though I doubt he'll change, especially if he continues to get offers to preach at camp meetings and conferences.
If he still gets offers, then I guess people have less of a problem with him than we do, who weren't present in the audience to see how we felt about the delivery. Video clips are not the same as being present.
Really? Why doesn't it work? Was Wilson lying? No, he was telling the truth. Obama was lying.
Doesn't lessen the offense of the remark. If JA looked at some preacher on the platform and said, "please don't be offended, but good grief, you're a fat slob." You think the preacher would be less offended just because of the prefaced, "please don't be offended?" And if JA is telling the truth, and this preacher is a fat slob, does that lessen the offense because it's true?
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Yes, and we are ALL so kind and patient here ALL the time, aren't we? We are ALL qualified to correct JA.
Are you comparing posting on AFF to delivering a message to thousands at BOTT, which thousands more will see via DVDs?
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If he still gets offers, then I guess people have less of a problem with him than we do, who weren't present in the audience to see how we felt about the delivery. Video clips are not the same as being present.
Offers wouldn't necessarily mean people didn't have an issue with him; just means the one's in charge, writing the checks, don't have an issue with him.
I didnt get to attend... However, I have friends who were there. they said it was great, and they came home energized and refreshed.... (ps for the goofballs who have decided they know what the thing ought to be about, this is exactly what it has always been about)
go back to bashing what you hate you haters !
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Doesn't lessen the offense of the remark. If JA looked at some preacher on the platform and said, "please don't be offended, but good grief, you're a fat slob." You think the preacher would be less offended just because of the prefaced, "please don't be offended?" And if JA is telling the truth, and this preacher is a fat slob, does that lessen the offense because it's true?
I personally feel he was addressing Maxwell's quote and not the minister who quoted him. That is why he could say, "I know that quote came from Maxwell...whoever it is, don't get offended."
IOW, he is saying, "Don't get offended when I comment on Maxwell's words you quoted."
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Are you comparing posting on AFF to delivering a message to thousands at BOTT, which thousands more will see via DVDs?
I am saying, as this scripture doesn't change even when engaging in a conversation or debate about another person's actions - "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:2 (NIV)
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Offers wouldn't necessarily mean people didn't have an issue with him; just means the one's in charge, writing the checks, don't have an issue with him.
They certainly are not going to write a check to someone who no one wants to hear speak.
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