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Old 01-04-2014, 08:31 PM
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Do you have special powers that let you know when you read truly inspired scriptures, or fake ones? Can you know the difference between a random hunch (even if it turns out to be true) and God's still, small voice? Can you tell the difference between a delusional person and a true prophet? Do you know when someone gives you a word of knowledge that it is the real thing or fake, even if it is a correct guess?

Do only Christians have these special powers? Only Oneness Pentecostal believers?
It is time for posting to get serious.

I am wondering why the ones whose teachings don't work out as accurate are not exposed and why they are not exposed as false prophets. They are always covered for. The Treece's for example spouted all kinds of end of the world prophecies for decades, none of which are even possible to come true today.

How is it that a guy like that is still practicing ministry? How is it that his nonsense has not been exposed for what it was - fund raising nonsense? Instead he probably has some high up title in the organization.

Riddle me this: In an organization where those who teach false prophecies get "promoted" how in the world can the people who belong to it convince themselves that they are being taught by ministers who are in possession of the one and only set of keys to heaven?
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:02 PM
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It is time for posting to get serious.

I am wondering why the ones whose teachings don't work out as accurate are not exposed and why they are not exposed as false prophets. They are always covered for. The Treece's for example spouted all kinds of end of the world prophecies for decades, none of which are even possible to come true today.

How is it that a guy like that is still practicing ministry? How is it that his nonsense has not been exposed for what it was - fund raising nonsense? Instead he probably has some high up title in the organization.

Riddle me this: In an organization where those who teach false prophecies get "promoted" how in the world can the people who belong to it convince themselves that they are being taught by ministers who are in possession of the one and only set of keys to heaven?
Hope. Even if it's false hope, at least it's hope. It's why Benny Hinn still is in business and still has millions of fans. Even those who attend his shows and leave unhealed are still fans. It boggles the mind, but maybe it's the only hope some people have, and the still have hope that maybe their healing will come later. Some hang on to that hope for years! Then they die, and they get their healing (so their fellow Hinn fans say) in heaven.

And it's not just Hinn. Just saying.
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:18 PM
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Re: How can you tell?

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Do you have special powers that let you know when you read truly inspired scriptures, or fake ones? Can you know the difference between a random hunch (even if it turns out to be true) and God's still, small voice? Can you tell the difference between a delusional person and a true prophet? Do you know when someone gives you a word of knowledge that it is the real thing or fake, even if it is a correct guess?

Do only Christians have these special powers?
I have been thinking about answering this post for a while and just haven't gotten around to it. Since I'm sort of an edge-skirter on a lot of things, I thought I might chime in.

Do you have special powers that let you know when you read truly inspired scriptures, or fake ones?

No, but sometimes I truly feel like certain scriptures or even things out of Reader's Digest are speaking directly to me and my situation. When I was in the church, I was constantly looking for this and it took something from it. Now, I don't really look for it, so when it happens, it is very nice and feels inspired.

Can you know the difference between a random hunch (even if it turns out to be true) and God's still, small voice?

This is like asking how you know you are in love. Again, when I was in the church, I was constantly looking for this and now I am not. But there are times I feel something is truly from God and other times it seems like just a hunch. Other times some things drive me nuts. For example, at the risk of sounding nuts, this just happened to me last week. I had a dream I was in a certain town and knew details about it. So, my husband and I were driving in a certain town we had never been before in real life right after this dream. I started getting a little jumpy and told my husband, if there is a DQ around this corner, I am going to be freaked out. Well, there was one. And then after a while I said, okay, I just have to do this. I asked him to turn a certain way because I needed to see if there was a lake there. I told him about my dream. Well, there was a lake there. Then, I got mad because I felt like I was just being kind of tormented. There was no real reason, it seemed for the dream, other than to get me riled up. So, maybe before I die there will be something or maybe not. But I just threw this dream over my shoulder and moved on because I felt nothing but irritated. Sometimes I am practically sure that a feeling I get means something and other times I am pretty sure, but I am never 100% sure.

Can you tell the difference between a delusional person and a true prophet?

I don't know if I have ever met a true prophet. But I would measure them by their love and openness and realness.

Do you know when someone gives you a word of knowledge that it is the real thing or fake, even if it is a correct guess?

Events usually bear out whether it is true or false not my guessing at it.

Do only Christians have these special powers?

No.
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:23 PM
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Good questions, Brother Timmy.

All of my life I've heard that OPs shouldn't preach standards to the lost because the lost can't understand "holiness" without the Holy Ghost.

Also, I've heard the idea that someone has to "have a revelation" of the name of Jesus in order to understand Oneness theology.

These are examples of a special "knowing" that only OPs possess.
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:36 PM
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Thanks for the posts, ILG and Charnock.
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And Wii and everyone else!
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:37 PM
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Re: How can you tell?

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Mormons have a burning in the bosom that tells them what is true. Is it kind of like that for you, too?
lol not quite timmy but thanks for asking ..

if there is no spiriit witness in you then its probably not good for you . the spirit always bears witness to what it does.
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Old 01-10-2014, 02:53 AM
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lol not quite timmy but thanks for asking ..

if there is no spiriit witness in you then its probably not good for you . the spirit always bears witness to what it does.
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:03 PM
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Re: How can you tell?

hey, WII, that was pretty Good! can i quote you?
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:10 PM
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Re: How can you tell?

The simple truth, Timmy, is that you cannot tell. Everyone else has no problem, once they have realized the true definition of the Scriptural 'Hope;' but this avenue will be...or at least has been denied you. Can you see a rainbow? Are you aware that it only exists in your mind, that it is just a trick of perception? Then how might 'confident expectation' in some phenomenon outside that tiny little band of perception be so incomprehensible?
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