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11-23-2013, 02:49 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by seekerman
Simply because you aren't participating on the forum anymore that doesn't mean the questions will go away. They're still there hanging around for when, or if, you choose to return.
Discussion and truth is nothing to be afraid of. Responding by leaving isn't really a response and responding by character attacks and attempted coercion isn't a response. Why not just civilly discuss issues without threats and/or character assassination and if agreement isn't reached, so be it.
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Jer 12:5 If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan? |
Sometimes it isn't discussion and truth but the belligerent and "in your face" manner some carry on
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2013, 02:50 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Sometimes it isn't discussion and truth but the belligerent and "in your face" manner some carry on
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True.
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11-23-2013, 02:52 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by bishoph
If it were a level playing field....possibly.....it is not a level playing field however, because we are constantly referred to as cults/cultic, our beliefs are not respected (yet everybody else demands we accept without question theirs) no matter how many times we state our beliefs and give scripture as to why we believe them, the response is that's not what the scripture means. As you know, we (those that preach/practice/believe in standards) according to more than one on this forum, are now cheats, liars, adulterers, wife swappers, and pedophiles/child abusers. It runs in our DNA and is inherent in our character. I think that makes it a little hard for us to have real discussion. Oh and BTW threats and/or character assassination is not exclusive to those who may see things differently than you.....I have seen/read it from all sides.
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Originally Posted by seekerman
What would be your view toward those ministers who fellowship with those churches where the practice of keeping medical care from children exist?
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Seekerman didn't even bother to address bishoph's concerns but went directly into being confrontation.
Does anyone see the problem?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2013, 02:54 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by seekerman
Yes, epley evaded my questions.
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That wasn't Abiding's point. Is that really all you got out of it?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2013, 02:57 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by seekerman
If epley would have simply been open enough to answer the simple question 'do you fellowship and associate with churches which preach doctrines that result in withholding medical treatment from children', this probably wouldn't have gone on this long.
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I think he was open enough that he was rather disturbed at the accusations of marital infidelity.
When you are belligerent and "in your face", you're gonna get less answers
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2013, 03:01 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by seekerman
No, I'm not hurt, bitter, vindictive, yada, yada, yada. I left the oneness pentecostal sect because I disagree with them in several areas. Now I could relate the responses from oneness pentecostals toward me when I left the sect. It wasn't unlike the personal attacks I receive frequently on this forum.
And yes, I have addressed the blood transfusion issue with JWs. They, as many 'apostolics', don't seem to wish to disucss it though. This tells me that religious spirits are the same no matter what sect is involved.
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Blood transfustions is a JW doctrine.
Withholding Medical Care is NOT an Apostolic doctrine. It is an aberration.
The UPCI and other Apostolic organizations that I know of have no such doctrine
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-23-2013, 03:01 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Seekerman didn't even bother to address bishoph's concerns but went directly into being confrontation.
Does anyone see the problem?
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The concerns were about pointing out the practices of some who call themselves 'apostolics' and would rather for folks not to do that. His concern wasn't with those who fellowship with those who practice theology which results in the suffering, and sometimes death, of innocent children.
His concern was with protecting the good name of 'apostolics'. I'm not concerned about that but concerned about those who accept and fellowship with those practicing sacrificial theology.
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11-23-2013, 03:03 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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That wasn't Abiding's point. Is that really all you got out of it?
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Yes.
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11-23-2013, 03:03 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Blood transfustions is a JW doctrine.
Withholding Medical Care is NOT an Apostolic doctrine. It is an aberration.
The UPCI and other Apostolic organizations that I know of have no such doctrine
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It IS a part of the oneness pentecostal sect.
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11-23-2013, 03:03 PM
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Re: Just A Reminder To Those Who Have Left The For
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Originally Posted by Abiding Now
He never does. His calling is ASKING.  |
Right. He believes he has a calling to be the Grand Inquisitor.
__________________
Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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