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View Poll Results: Persecution of American Christians?
yep, it's a coming 8 61.54%
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:41 PM
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Not that it is IMPOSSIBLE, but I don't believe that the United States of America will EVER see the true persecution of Christians.

I believe America is special.
I believe GOD has a plan of preservation for us-- through the tribulation period where we will see Christian persecution in other places around the world. We will be in a place politically and economically where our influence will be of no effect.

GOD is going to use a nation to help Israel.
The USA will be that nation.
Have you heard of a book called "The Harbinger"?
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Old 10-31-2013, 05:44 PM
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Amen! The Beast (One World Government) will rule the world from America.
On his back, will come in Mystery Babylon (One World Religion)

Michael, did I send you one of my books? What did you think of it? I'd like to have some feedback.
I don't recall getting a book from you. If I do you will get feedback.
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Man, I sure hope not.
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Not that it is IMPOSSIBLE, but I don't believe that the United States of America will EVER see the true persecution of Christians. I believe America is special. I believe GOD has a plan of preservation for us-- through the tribulation period where we will see Christian persecution in other places around the world. We will be in a place politically and economically where our influence will be of no effect. GOD is going to use a nation to help Israel. The USA will be that nation.
and NONE of this spew backed with scripture...
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Amen! The Beast (One World Government) will rule the world from America. On his back, will come in Mystery Babylon (One World Religion) Michael, did I send you one of my books? What did you think of it? I'd like to have some feedback.
and NONE of this spew backed with scripture...
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and NONE of this spew backed with scripture...
Really?

I believe there will be a "Great Tribulation" period of time-- a time of great trouble for Christians in various parts of the world. I believe that this is spoken of in the Bible. Don't you?

I believe that America as a country will exist during and through this time period because the Bible speaks of a distant nation that will come and help Israel "with wings of an eagle" during this time period.

I believe that verse is a reference to America.

God will use America to bring deliverance to Israel in the future, during the period refered to as "The Great Tribulation".
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Really?

I believe there will be a "Great Tribulation" period of time-- a time of great trouble for Christians in various parts of the world. I believe that this is spoken of in the Bible. Don't you?

I believe that America as a country will exist during and through this time period because the Bible speaks of a distant nation that will come and help Israel "with wings of an eagle" during this time period.

I believe that verse is a reference to America.

God will use America to bring deliverance to Israel in the future, during the period refered to as "The Great Tribulation".
That's a popular belief, but God delivered Israel on eagle's wings way back in Exodus, too, several thousand years before the US ever existed (Exodus 19:4). I would be cautious in reading the USA into the Scriptures.

Zechariah 14:2 tells us ALL NATIONS shall be gathered against Jerusalem. So either the US will be a part of that gathering, or else the US will not exist during that time.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:36 AM
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Anti-bullying is one things. Bullying is harassment. Usually its against one specific person. The constitution is not clear on things like healthcare. But its very very very clear on freedom of speech. I would have a fat payday coming my way if the Govt arrested me for something I said. Especially something I said in a religious setting. You say will be like you know for sure. Religious paranoia much?
1) I would love to believe that SCOTUS will always uphold the 1st, but it's not a guarantee. There are clear limits to "free speech" already in place. Try going to a crowded theater, yelling "Fire! Fire!" and see if the 1st amendment will protect you from prosecution. Try going to an airport and talking about some kind of threat to an airline, see how far your 1st amendment will take you. The SCOTUS has agreed there are limits to "free speech."

2) There have been several private businesses sued, with some being put out of business for alleged discrimination against gays. This years SCOTUS ruling will help to enable more lawsuits against private business owners who have personal or religious convictions against this lifestyle. And not only has it affected private businesses, but it has set the precedent to be used against churches in the near future.

No, I don't have religious paranoia; but I am able to see what has happened as setting the precedent for future legal issues.
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Not that it is IMPOSSIBLE, but I don't believe that the United States of America will EVER see the true persecution of Christians.

I believe America is special.
I believe GOD has a plan of preservation for us-- through the tribulation period where we will see Christian persecution in other places around the world. We will be in a place politically and economically where our influence will be of no effect.

GOD is going to use a nation to help Israel.
The USA will be that nation.
Baxter is a big proponent of this thought. America isn't special. America is a baby-killing, sin-loving, gay-supporting steamy pile of trash in God's nostrils. It's only His mercy, and the number of Godly people in America, that keeps God from destroying her. God Himself will help Israel. He will not allow another to get the glory; and certainly not a sinful nation like America.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:41 AM
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I believe America is Mystery Babylon. Saints will be put to death for sport. Lots of them.
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Amen! The Beast (One World Government) will rule the world from America. On his back, will come in Mystery Babylon (One World Religion)
I don't believe America is Babylon, nor will the OWG be headquartered here. America has lost her luster and shine. Fifty or sixy years ago, I may have agreed with you; but not today. Especially with the new revelations that the US NSA has been spying on everyone, including the Pope. We've lost too much credibility to be the OWG HQ. That will likely be based in Belgium where the World Court is already located.
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