Selling Out to Cash In.... Ex-Apostolics...

[rkentsmith]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Why is it when it comes to prosperity liberal's always quote the Old testament but when it comes to standards... they critisize Conservatives for the same???

The libs know how to "rightly divide" the word

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

The libs know how to "rightly divide" the word

Yes they do. I'm agreeing since you seem to be making an assertion sans a question mark.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It's about perspective ... RevRandy ... once again .... are there blatant example of Christian charlatans ... of course .....

but we often can't understand why a preacher or singer has left our ranks and so we often chalk it up to ... "well ... they're just compromisers who after money".

No but it is one aspect of the triangle I hate to see...

It is suspect... but it is their choice...and we have our own issues.. but that being said... Truth is STILL truth... Doctrine is STILL Doctrine..

They have given up that in my opinion when they are raising money for a false hope that lulls folks into thinking their saved....

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Why is it when it comes to prosperity liberal's always quote the Old testament but when it comes to standards... they critisize Conservatives for the same???

I think that you are fishing here. I am more a lib than a con, but I do not critisize cons for reading the OT when referring to standards. I do think that it is a out of context thing when people talk about standards. Although I do follow most of them. The church today can not be a church with out the older generations no more than the Bible can be the word of God without the OT.

I just think that the Cons, as a majority, are trying to box the Libs in here. I think that most of the Cons are trying to hard to defend the standards thing. Some would say the Libs are doing the same for the money thing. Maybe. But ALL the Cons get their shorts, I mean pants in a wad when some tells them that they are taking scripture out of context about the dress code. I hate the word standards cause dress code is not standards. Standards is a life style to live by. Not a set of "do not's" but of "you can's." You can obstain from premarital sex, drugs, etc.

Holiness does not equal standards. Standards, not dress code, help to protect your holiness. A dress code is ok for the modesty thing. The Cons have taken it beyond modesty. They have made it heaven or hell and not modest and immodest. Women can be more modest or as modest in pants than a skirt. This not a standards thread, but the Cons always make things about "defending" the look of a person. When the intent is the immoral part.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Why is it when it comes to prosperity liberal's always quote the Old testament but when it comes to standards... they critisize Conservatives for the same???

Now, that's a good question.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I think that you are fishing here. I am more a lib than a con, but I do not critisize cons for reading the OT when referring to standards. I do think that it is a out of context thing when people talk about standards. Although I do follow most of them. The church today can not be a church with out the older generations no more than the Bible can be the word of God without the OT.

I just think that the Cons, as a majority, are trying to box the Libs in here. I think that most of the Cons are trying to hard to defend the standards thing. Some would say the Libs are doing the same for the money thing. Maybe. But ALL the Cons get their shorts, I mean pants in a wad when some tells them that they are taking scripture out of context about the dress code. I hate the word standards cause dress code is not standards. Standards is a life style to live by. Not a set of "do not's" but of "you can's." You can obstain from premarital sex, drugs, etc.

Holiness does not equal standards. Standards, not dress code, help to protect your holiness. A dress code is ok for the modesty thing. The Cons have taken it beyond modesty. They have made it heaven or hell and not modest and immodest. Women can be more modest or as modest in pants than a skirt. This not a standards thread, but the Cons always make things about "defending" the look of a person. When the intent is the immoral part.

Wasn't really attacking you personally but it seems to prevail among charismatics... and some liberal leaning folks...

I don't have a problem defending Biblical Standards set forth in the Word...

[SDG]

Originally Posted by revrandy

No but it is one aspect of the triangle I hate to see...

It is suspect... but it is their choice...and we have our own issues.. but that being said... Truth is STILL truth... Doctrine is STILL Doctrine..

They have given up that in my opinion when they are raising money for a false hope that lulls folks into thinking their saved....

Is doctrine still doctrine ... truth still truth when you have SOME Apostolic pastors bilking their saints EVERY SUNDAY ....???

There's a few ... one recently in Ohio ... that has allegedly stolen thousands of dollars ....

[CC1]

RKentSmith,

Please answer my question from the last page.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Is doctrine still doctrine ... truth still truth when you have SOME Apostolic pastors bilking their saints EVERY SUNDAY ....???

There's a few ... one recently in Ohio ... that has allegedly stolen thousands of dollars ....

I am not saying we don't have our own snake oil salesmen..Dan..

But I do think it sad.. When talented Folks leave the Biblical Doctrine of Oneness, Repentence, Baptism in Jesus Name and the Infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in Tongues.. to promote False Doctrine which doesn't save anyone...

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by CC1

RKentSmith,

Please answer my question from the last page.

CC1.. I think he is alluding to Country Music... and Money...