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Old 09-11-2013, 10:34 AM
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The more massive the fluctuation... doesn't that also indicate a problem?
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Old 09-11-2013, 10:36 AM
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I believe that the sins of greed will bring this upon us. Some sins bring their own consequences. And... it may very well be part of God's plan in the endtimes.
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Isn't "Global Warming" about the conditions that will bring on global cooling? I've been told that "Global Warming" is a misnomer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFLncfCvPeY
There was one theory that suggested the last I e age was caused by warming that melted a large portion of the Greenland Ice cap. The idea is that this melt of a large volume of fresh water would stop the Atlantic conveyor thus causing cooling which would change the albedo so dramatically as to reflect too much sunlight back into space causing out of control cooling.

This is a raw theory with very little supporting evidence. It is not part on any major literature. Not even the IPCC puts any stock in that idea.
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The more massive the fluctuation... doesn't that also indicate a problem?
It would be a mischaractorization to suggest this fluctuation is major. It is within recent averages. There have been Absolutly NO major extremes in weather patterns.

Warmest statements about fires,floods, droughts, hurricanes, tornadoes are all lies
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It would be a mischaractorization to suggest this fluctuation is major. It is within recent averages. There have been Absolutly NO major extremes in weather patterns.

Warmest statements about fires,floods, droughts, hurricanes, tornadoes are all lies
............. temp since recorded history has changed about a half degree,its called weather cycles like a refridgerator with automatic defrost/if man could control the weather we would,we have absoulutely zero effect on it in the long term picture.
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The more massive the fluctuation... doesn't that also indicate a problem?
Why would it?
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MarcBee, I have a bad habit of reading the actual scientific papers and keeping up with what the major scientists are saying.

I read NOAA, and I read the warmists blogs and I read the skeptics. As well as the luke warmers.

lets be really clear about this in 2007 there was shear panic and the Warmists were freaking out yelling and screaming about no ice in 2013. They were wrong and and now they are coming up with new excuses.

I agree that trends do not go in a straight line. I also agree that we are still in a clear trend to less ice in the Arctic at this point. however, the truth of the matter is, this current snit is not about one article in the daily mail. it is about holding what are supposed to be experts accountable. EVERYONE was saying that 2013 was a breaking point year. They were brutally wrong.
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