Yes, very odd very real...
The man told me if the devil just showed his face right out, then he would not have be able to win over a world of souls without them even knowing it...
That come the great battle, it would be to late for all of us as we would be so far from God that we wouldn't even know how to get back, as every single thing in our world and in our mind would be that of the devils works, even our grasp on religion....
It was like some spooky indian telling you a story over a fire, but it was an Amish, and that all true Amish new this as well....
Maybe I'm just gong nuts