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07-14-2013, 02:30 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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It seems like between this and the Paula Deen thing, the media is trying to get race riots going. I wonder why.
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07-14-2013, 02:39 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I don't believe there was any evidence GZ "stepped out to question TM".
I believe the evidence shows GZ "stepped out" to be able to find TM because TM "disappeared". GZ was trying to keep an eye on him so the police can find him.
I also don't believe GZ "approached" TM but the other way around. TM "confronted" GZ (the crazy blank cracker) to find out why he was following him....which BTW does not sound like he was scared.
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I see. I still think it was a stupid thing to get out of the car. Just my opinion.
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07-14-2013, 02:41 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Barb do you think he set out with the intent to murder Trayvon?
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I don't know. So many here think I am ignorant of the facts because of my view and my comments, so I don't know what to think anymore.
IMO, I think he should have stayed in the car. I don't think he should have followed him.
And for those who think he DID show remorse, in the Hannity interview, Zimmerman was asked if there was anything he regretted...getting out of the car, etc.
And he said "NO!"
So, is he content with a young man, whether a thug or not, dying in the street?
You tell me...
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07-14-2013, 02:45 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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I see. I still think it was a stupid thing to get out of the car. Just my opinion.
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I don't disagree....me personally, at night, I'd stay in the car...
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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07-14-2013, 02:45 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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I don't know. So many here think I am ignorant of the facts because of my view and my comments, so I don't know what to think anymore.
IMO, I think he should have stayed in the car. I don't think he should have followed him.
And for those who think he DID show remorse, in the Hannity interview, Zimmerman was asked if there was anything he regretted...getting out of the car, etc.
And he said "NO!"
So, is he content with a young man, whether a thug or not, dying in the street?
You tell me...
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07-14-2013, 02:46 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Originally Posted by CC1
Any conceal gun carry course or self defense course will tell you not to fire a gun unless you aim to kill. If you are in a struggle and feel your life is in danger you do not shoot an arm or a leg. Particularly with a 9mm. It most likely would not stop the person shot. To suggest that a person in a struggle with another should just shoot an arm or leg is ludicrous because even if you wanted to that is most likely impossible. Do you say "excuse me, could you please let go and back off for a moment so I can aim for your arm or leg as not to hurt you badly?" People like you have all of these alternative scenarios of what Z should have done that just don't stand when you think about it.
It does matter if Trayvon was a thug because it goes to state of mind and makes it much more likely he did get aggressive with that "cracker" Zimmerman as Zimmerman claims and the evidence shows (broken nose, cuts on back of head).
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As a 61 year old woman who has never fired a gun, I was speaking from my heart and not my head.
I just suppose "people like me" are searching for a better way of handling things.
You all have my sincere apologies for my interruptions...
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07-14-2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Originally Posted by Barb
I don't know. So many here think I am ignorant of the facts because of my view and my comments, so I don't know what to think anymore.
IMO, I think he should have stayed in the car. I don't think he should have followed him.
And for those who think he DID show remorse, in the Hannity interview, Zimmerman was asked if there was anything he regretted...getting out of the car, etc.
And he said "NO!"
So, is he content with a young man, whether a thug or not, dying in the street?
You tell me...
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When Hannity asked what he would say to Martin's parents, Zimmerman said:
"I would tell them that, again, I'm sorry. My wife and I don’t have any children. I have nephews that I love more than life. I love them more than myself. And I know when they were born, it was a different unique bond and love that I have with them. And I love my children even though they aren’t born yet. I am sorry that they buried their child. I can’t imagine what it must feel like. I pray for them daily."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...erview-Hannity
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-14-2013, 02:49 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I don't disagree....me personally, at night, I'd stay in the car...
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 much better defensive position to be in than to be out in the open.
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07-14-2013, 02:49 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Originally Posted by Barb
I don't know. So many here think I am ignorant of the facts because of my view and my comments, so I don't know what to think anymore.
IMO, I think he should have stayed in the car. I don't think he should have followed him.
And for those who think he DID show remorse, in the Hannity interview, Zimmerman was asked if there was anything he regretted...getting out of the car, etc.
And he said "NO!"
So, is he content with a young man, whether a thug or not, dying in the street?
You tell me...
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I think that it will only be with this mess behind him that we will ever get to know what GZ thought or felt about it. Right now everything must go through the filter of 'is this going to increase the chance that I will be hurt in some way by my statement'... And actually I am not sure if even GZ can say how he would have felt if there had never been an arrest, a trial, the threats and fear he's endured... it all has to have colored his view of this situation.
I think that what you wish Barb is exactly what I wish... That young men didn't make bad choices that ruin their lives before they are even started. That the world was not a place where people had to carry guns to protect themselves. That these horrible complicated tragedies just did not happen and that if they did there was a clear cut right side and wrong side and everyone told the truth about how things went down and worked toward them not ever happening again.
Not a thing wrong with that. I don't find you wrong for wishing that GZ had done something different that did not end in the loss of TM life. I am sorry I implied I thought you were stupid... it was mean and uncalled for. Please accept my most sincere apology.
Peace to you. ((HUGS))
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07-14-2013, 02:53 PM
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty!!!
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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
I think that it will only be with this mess behind him that we will ever get to know what GZ thought or felt about it. Right now everything must go through the filter of 'is this going to increase the chance that I will be hurt in some way by my statement'... And actually I am not sure if even GZ can say how he would have felt if there had never been an arrest, a trial, the threats and fear he's endured... it all has to have colored his view of this situation.
I think that what you wish Barb is exactly what I wish... That young men didn't make bad choices that ruin their lives before they are even started. That the world was not a place where people had to carry guns to protect themselves. That these horrible complicated tragedies just did not happen and that if they did there was a clear cut right side and wrong side and everyone told the truth about how things went down and worked toward them not ever happening again.
Not a thing wrong with that. I don't find you wrong for wishing that GZ had done something different that did not end in the loss of TM life. I am sorry I implied I thought you were stupid... it was mean and uncalled for. Please accept my most sincere apology.
Peace to you. ((HUGS))
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Thank you, and peace and *hugs* to you.
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