Paul's gospel must be accepted

[Luke]

Where does the bible ever ever ever ever ever even hint that people get a second chance after they die?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Luke

Where does the bible ever ever ever ever ever even hint that people get a second chance after they die?

Where does it say, the God that is love, turns to hate the moment one dies physically?????

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by crakjak

"Be ye reconciled to God". What do you think this is??? This is the process of one coming to maturity in Christ, this is the fire. And don't forget, I said all will be "...salted with fire..." Both believer and unbeliever, to complete right relationship to God. A believer starts the process here and now, unbeliever's may in the future hear, or in the age to come. Both will come to maturity thru God's dealing with man thru the ages. So, you can drop the argument that I am saying believers don't go thru the fire. God deals with believers thru the problems and issues of this age. "All will be salted with fire."

To me its like marriage. I have a paper that NC legally recognizes my marriage but that doesn't mean I am married in my heart. some take a few years before they are "be ye married".

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

To me its like marriage. I have a paper that NC legally recognizes my marriage but that doesn't mean I am married in my heart. some take a few years before they are "be ye married".

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

To me its like marriage. I have a paper that NC legally recognizes my marriage but that doesn't mean I am married in my heart. some take a few years before they are "be ye married".

This analogy fails because a marriage cannot occur based on one person. It takes two people to come to an agreement.
So an unbeliever who has not put his faith in Christ is NOT YET EVEN married to Christ.

Now, if you had said a christian maturing in the faith, your analogy could have been more plausible. But to use that analogy for an unbeliever is just way out there.

Basically, your analogy is saying God is FORCEFULLY marrying some people that don't want to marry him...

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by TGBTG

This analogy fails because a marriage cannot occur based on one person. It takes two people to come to an agreement.
So an unbeliever who has not put his faith in Christ is NOT YET EVEN married to Christ.

Now, if you had said a christian maturing in the faith, your analogy could have been more plausible. But to use that analogy for an unbeliever is just way out there.

Basically, your analogy is saying God is FORCEFULLY marrying some people that don't want to marry him...

While i think there is scriptures that point to universal salvation I believe faith is required. I was just bringing out the legal standing vs. relationship standing.

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

While i think there is scriptures that point to universal salvation I believe faith is required. I was just bringing out the legal standing vs. relationship standing.

Example please?