Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[Insider]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Thanks for admitting what I said all along. You don't care about the people you worship with. It's a game to you now. It's nice to know you get your jollies from the pain of others. While people are hurting Insider treating the situation like the class bully. Thanks for revealing what many of us knew all along.

You ain't scared are you? LOL

[Insider]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

What in the world are you talking about?

You're messed up.

That's just it. He is floating around rudderless. I don't think he even knows what he is babbling about. He really needs to stop while he is still above water.

[Tlswift2009]

Originally Posted by Insider

And your excuse is? Waiting with baited breath. Yeah, you were so concerned about TPC you made a derogatory comment about the church I Love, TPC. My comments stand. I can tell you really do care. If you REALLY cared you'd leave this conversation to those of us that actually have a stake in this. You are an outsider with a non-valid argument trying to be relevant. Everyone here knows your agenda. BTW, are you Apostolic? Your avatar and Sig sure points to you being a cruisimatic. Why don't you find a trinitarian forum to spread your hate?

Insider, Please-cast NOT thy pearls among the swines-give NOT that which is Holy to the dogs"....

[CC1]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Just to raise your lordship a notch, why not go get one of those backward collar thingies to wear in your romanist religious system in the 'church' you lord over?

Seekerman, your obsession with "Romanism" is a little sad. It is also absurd to insinuate that pastors in the church systems in America are "lording" over their churches.

In any system, including any that you would propose, there will be sucesses, failures, good men, bad men, good men who go bad, etc, etc, etc.

You are naive to think that your chosen type of church government would solve the failures of men.

You are also wrong to think that they bible advocates one particular church government or system over another. We are given some general information about how they did it in the New Testament church age but no specific commandments or instructions that things had to be one certain way.

As I have stated before I believe that God in his wisdom knew that the church would persevere though the ages with many changes in culture, etc that would or could dictate different ways of doing church.

You my friend are off in a ditch flailing at windmills.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by CC1

Seekerman, your obsession with "Romanism" is a little sad. It is also absurd to insinuate that pastors in the church systems in America are "lording" over their churches.

In any system, including any that you would propose, there will be sucesses, failures, good men, bad men, good men who go bad, etc, etc, etc.

You are naive to think that your chosen type of church government would solve the failures of men.

You are also wrong to think that they bible advocates one particular church government or system over another. We are given some general information about how they did it in the New Testament church age but no specific commandments or instructions that things had to be one certain way.

As I have stated before I believe that God in his wisdom knew that the church would persevere though the ages with many changes in culture, etc that would or could dictate different ways of doing church.

You my friend are off in a ditch flailing at windmills.

Ain't my church system, it's the church system in the New Testament church which is the true church system. What we're seeing within Christianity is just a modified romanist system which bears little, if any, resemblance to the New Testament church. A man-centric, building-centric, system isn't found in the New Testament church. It's directly from the romanist system.

Yes, there will be failures by men, no doubt about that, but to have the failures in a man-centric, building-centric religious system causes far more hurt, destruction, pain and confusion than it would in the true New Testament system.

[Insider]

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

Insider, Please-cast NOT thy pearls among the swines-give NOT that which is Holy to the dogs"....

Good advice, maybe we should just ignore him. ;-P

[scotty]

Originally Posted by scotty

It is prevelant on the this forum to preach as doctrine to follow only God and never man because man will fail you.

Then why is it so hurtful and surprising when a man does fail?

Bump.

[Insider]

Originally Posted by CC1

Seekerman, your obsession with "Romanism" is a little sad. It is also absurd to insinuate that pastors in the church systems in America are "lording" over their churches.

In any system, including any that you would propose, there will be sucesses, failures, good men, bad men, good men who go bad, etc, etc, etc.

You are naive to think that your chosen type of church government would solve the failures of men.

You are also wrong to think that they bible advocates one particular church government or system over another. We are given some general information about how they did it in the New Testament church age but no specific commandments or instructions that things had to be one certain way.

As I have stated before I believe that God in his wisdom knew that the church would persevere though the ages with many changes in culture, etc that would or could dictate different ways of doing church.

You my friend are off in a ditch flailing at windmills.

Moral failures by men will happen. Not much we can do about that. We can blame the devil, but he gets way too much credit. Men make choices. Some good, some not so good. But this discussion brings up some valid arguments. Just how was the early Apostolic Church set up? What was their form of Church Gov't and what exactly does scripture say concerning it? I am of the same opinion as CC1, it really doesn't seem to be specific. God, indeed, knew there would be failures, but somehow we've managed to perpetuate truth throughout the ages in spite of our failures.

Maybe it's all about the perfection process? I know I have certainly learned a lot over the past few months as to how I feel church government should function. But where does scripture point us in this discussion? I think it would be beneficial if we could discuss it civilly without all the grandstanding going on, if that is possible. Which I seriously doubt. But maybe we can look past the rhetoric and personal agendas and seek common ground on the subject.

[tv1a]

Since when did gossip become holy? Why are you suggesting the Bible is swine? You prevert the gospel and call evil good.

Originally Posted by Tlswift2009

Insider, Please-cast NOT thy pearls among the swines-give NOT that which is Holy to the dogs"....

[Insider]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Since when did gossip become holy? Why are you suggesting the Bible is swine? You prevert the gospel and call evil good.

I prevert what? What is a prevert? Your comments are getting old. You've made your point. I think you could actually just copy and paste your one comment over and over and save yourself a lot of effort. We are trying to have a civil discussion that is actually constructive. So if you are truly interested and are actually capable of injecting something constructive and helpful, that adds something informative and useful to the discussion please do so, otherwise I think it would serve yourself and the rest of us a service to stop posting the same tired talking points.