So far, she hasn't chosen to exercise Matthew 19:29. Hey, I just noticed, it doesn't list husband in the things you can forsake to get eternal life. Woohooo!
I was just going to point that out.
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It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man. (Psalms 118:8)
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
If a woodchuck could chuck wood, well you know the rest!
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
Timmy, I'm sure as an agnostic, you have been asked this question many times.
Do you believe in eternal life? What do you believe happens to a person after death?
"No one knows where they go when they die." Solomon
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I believe our consciousness is a function of our brains, and, IMO, always will be. No brain activity, no consciousness. We will not "wake up" on the other side. We will just end.
Some people think this is a sad thing, but I don't. Of course, it would be nice to see my loved ones again, but in the here and now, I have them with me, and the memories of the ones who died before me. To believe in an afterlife that has two possible destinations, one good and one bad, depending on certain things in this life (whether actions/works or belief/faith or something else) is, IMO, horrible.
IMO, it is best to live this life for its own merit. For many reasons.
An uncomfy AMEN.
Understand I AM.
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Oh, there are pros and cons on both sides of the issue, sure. And you are wise not to fret and fuss over when you will burn in hell for some nit picky thing or other. I agree that God would not (even if I'm wrong about the afterlife question) punish anyone for such nonsense.
But what would He punish people for? There are many views of this matter, of course. One view that is popular around here is that God will punish (forever in flames) those who don't believe in Him, believe that the Bible is His Word, and obey His Word. (Details on what obedience means are another matter!) And this is where I have a serious problem: why would God put such a requirement on every one of us? We have to choose which purported holy book to believe? And we have to choose the right method of obedience, to get a good afterlife? We have to believe some people that say God told them the way, and disbelieve others?
Not buying it. Not anymore.
Me, too.
"Any hope of doing good now for a reward in the afterlife becomes immoral,"
or something like that. Gandhi
I think it might be important to reflect, for a moment,
on why you (or most of us) got 'saved' in the first place:
so that 'we,' 'ourself' -- in my case, 'Mark Whittington,'
might have eternal bliss, pref with lots of virgins, eventually,
that is to say 'when I die.' (Which is going to occur at a different
time for me, than it is for God for me, at least according to our human definitions, as it turns out)
The point being that God has a better idea,
and better definitions. Hey! That's what I got!
The Definitions! Neat; so I get to spend my life
rephrasing (misunderstood) truisms to people,
to strange looks. Ps if Im ever guessing, Ill say
"Im guessing."
Timmy, you are writing the Testament of Timmy,
right now, in a sense, I think? It includes how
religious authorities might mis-represent God
with the best of intentions, etc? Dont know for sure,
Ill have to study Hebrews some more. Good thread.
...did I say anything?
I came back to say that
I believe that I will be there,
on that majikul, far-off tomorrow,
when beer really IS free...
but will I be Mark, then?
I'm already told I'll have another name;
will I still be me?
Is an 80 year old...Mark, the 2 year old Mark?
I have recog'ed that 'what I believe'
is pretty much irrelevant-possibly.
C U there, T.