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10-19-2012, 07:07 PM
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Re: Tongues: Spiritual or Learned Behavior?
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However, when a person has the Gift of unknown tongues, they can speak those unknown tongues any time that they want to.
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I didn't pay attention to who said that, but I do not believe it. I am suspicious of anybody that says they can speak in tongues any time they want to.
I have heard what I am sure is fake speaking in tongues (I know, some people think it's all fake) and that concerns me.
There have been times that I felt a very powerful presence. It was not worked up and I don't care who argues otherwise. Someone has told me that the brain creates the feeling we call the Holy Ghost; well why does the brain do that? Why would it come over me suddenly when I had not been trying to feel anything? I know what I have felt; nobody else knows like I know what I have felt, and it is very real. There have been a few times when it seemed that everyone but me was feeling something and I am not speculating about the reason for that, but I do know the Holy Ghost is real and that people do sometimes speak in languages they have not learned. If anyone puts on a show for someone studying speaking in tongues, well I think that probably would be fake and any conclusions made by the researchers about that would have nothing to do with the real Holy Ghost.
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10-19-2012, 10:27 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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If it were not possible for people to speak in tongues at will, Paul wasted a lot if parchment addressing the Corinthians misuse of the gift. The fault would rest on God who caused the people to speak in tongues.
Maybe I should draw a picture in Crayons for some of you.
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10-19-2012, 10:34 PM
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Re: Tongues: Spiritual or Learned Behavior?
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If it were not possible for people to speak in tongues at will, Paul wasted a lot if parchment addressing the Corinthians misuse of the gift. The fault would rest on God who caused the people to speak in tongues.
Maybe I should draw a picture in Crayons for some of you.
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Not really, though I disagree with the "gift of tongues" equals "speak in tongues at will" idea, Paul never regulated how often one speaks in tongues.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-20-2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: Tongues: Spiritual or Learned Behavior?
Some of the people who think they can speak in tongues whenever they want to do not actually have the gift of tongues, and if you do have it, I don't think that means you could start speaking in tongues without being in the right attitude first.
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10-20-2012, 12:35 PM
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Guess I don't know how to convey....
K, maybe Etch A Sketch will work this time around.
Paul didn't address fake tongues. He addressed misuse of S.I.N. (speaking in tongues).
If tongue talking is controlled by the Holy Ghost it would not be possible to misuse or abuse S.I.N.
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10-20-2012, 02:42 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Tongues: Spiritual or Learned Behavior?
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Originally Posted by houston
Guess I don't know how to convey....
K, maybe Etch A Sketch will work this time around.
Paul didn't address fake tongues. He addressed misuse of S.I.N. (speaking in tongues).
If tongue talking is controlled by the Holy Ghost it would not be possible to misuse or abuse S.I.N.
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1Co 14:31 For you may all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be comforted.
1Co 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Gifts are not controlled by the Spirit, rather the are enabled by the Spirit
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-20-2012, 02:47 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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1Co 14:31 For you may all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be comforted.
1Co 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Gifts are not controlled by the Spirit, rather the are enabled by the Spirit
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Yeah. Agreed. The Spirit gives the ability. Some here believe that God has to move on you (control) to S.I.N. If that were the case... Nevermind. This thread has exhausted me.
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10-23-2012, 08:30 AM
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just lurking...
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Re: Tongues: Spiritual or Learned Behavior?
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Yeah. Agreed. The Spirit gives the ability. Some here believe that God has to move on you (control) to S.I.N. If that were the case... Nevermind. This thread has exhausted me.
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If that were the case...what?
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10-23-2012, 09:09 AM
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If that were the case...what?
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I'm sorry, what?
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10-23-2012, 10:23 AM
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Re: Tongues: Spiritual or Learned Behavior?
If that were the case, there would not be
all this CONFUSION among saints about tongues.
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