Ministering to the Transgendered

[Dante]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

You came up with this story for discussion sake, right?
Because I don't believe this really happened.
Sorry.

This really happened.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Like 1 in a million births,
1 in 500.000 births ????????

All extremes!

Let's name this forum:

"Extremist Forum".

You are very slow and your math is extremely weak...possibly up to 1 in 100 if all types of intersex are counted.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

You are very slow and your math is extremely weak...possibly up to 1 in 100 if all types of intersex are counted.

I doubt it.
WHERE did you find your statistics???????
Post them right here.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by Dante

This really happened.

OK....I believe you.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

I doubt it.
WHERE did you find your statistics???????
Post them right here.

They have been posted in the link above for the past two or more hours. This will be your second serving of humble pie in this thread... full yet?

[AreYouReady?]

Looking over what you posted in the link, I have to wonder how much of this is caused by the toxins and pollutions in our environment? Something has to be disrupting the development or causing the deformities of the fetus in utero.

I remember reading where studies have been done in lactating women and jet fuel chemical was found to be in breast milk.

[Titus2woman]

OK I have another minute to dedicate to this. Although the original poster does not personally know this couple so we can't really get details, here is why I immediately suspected the wife was an inter-sexed person rather than just a transsexual.

Transsexuals who undergo gender reassignment surgery have a lot of prerequisites. They must have psychological as well as psychiatric evaluations, they usually undergo therapy to help with the adjustments. They have to have a support system, which is usually found in the GLBT community. They usually do NOT go out and do something as stupid as marry a straight man by lying to him about having been born a woman. While it's not impossible, it's just not likely.

OTOH intersexed people were often at least partially surgically resexed in childhood, may never have gotten full disclosure from their parents or their doctors about what the exact nature of their 'problem' was/is, etc. This can lead to just these kinds of disasters. Some have never been told they are sterile and come to the doctor looking to find why they can not conceive. Some know they can not bear children but do not know why. Some have been given hormones for years and told they were vitamins and only find out when they go to college.

The older a person is the more likely that this is how their situation was handled. Even genetic males (XY) with micropenis used to be surgically changed to female (easier to build, remember?) and raised as girls. Most would have never thought of themselves as men until at some point they had to be told for some reason. Some were already married when that came to light. Heck, in the old days we didn't even tell kids they were adopted... let alone that they had to be surgically fixed to have 'normal' sex organs. Try to imagine your Me-maw or Paw-paw having that talk with one of your aunts or uncles.

We need to reserve judgement unless we fully understand the situation and unless we are the husband or wife of a person who has had gender reassignment it really falls under the category of none of our business. We do as a society need more education so that those who are born with intersex can be accepted as they are until/unless they decide to change their bodies. They have enough to deal with and so do their parents without us being hurtful in our ignorance.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Looking over what you posted in the link, I have to wonder how much of this is caused by the toxins and pollutions in our environment? Something has to be disrupting the development or causing the deformities of the fetus in utero.

I remember reading where studies have been done in lactating women and jet fuel chemical was found to be in breast milk.

ha we are chlorided, fluorided, ... it only makes sense to the ruler of this world to have you as sick as possible. Count on it. We legally allow, by law, like 250 million pounds of toxic waste into the water supply every year. Gee i wonder why people are being born with yadayada, and can't figure out what sex they are.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

ha we are chlorided, fluorided, ... it only makes sense to the ruler of this world to have you as sick as possible. Count on it. We legally allow, by law, like 250 million pounds of toxic waste into the water supply every year. Gee i wonder why people are being born with yadayada, and can't figure out what sex they are.

Yeah byrd and the EPA has raised the "allowable" amount of radiation in our food supply as well as the deadly toxin called "mercury" one can consume by mouth or needle.

[bbyrd009]

ha only if you let them.