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Old 10-03-2012, 12:09 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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"time to cut their losses" is not a biblical option. More like time to seek God and find a good Christian counselor.

http://whchurch.org/sermons-media/se...ith-god-part-1
I'm not talking about Biblical options, I'm talking about real world, Miz.....by the time many folks get to that place, they really don't care about Biblical guidelines.

As you say, the ideal situation is to find common ground, work thru it, stay together, and find a new love within the marriage.
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Sometimes pastors forget that they are merely human, too. I think that is often the very heart of the matter, when they have their human failings.
That is a more profound statement than you probably realize, Timmy. Very insightful and a lesson for all christian worshippers.
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Pastors expect perfection from saints, and even perfection isn't good enough for some scoundrels.
Which pastors?
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Wow! Don't know where y'all have gone, but my pastor is EXTREMELY merciful and believes in complete restoration.
Exactly
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His son in law was asst. pastor, daughter church sec. Many churches are like this.
True and is still a recipe for disaster
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True and is still a recipe for disaster
Sometimes. I've seen family integrated both successfully and unsuccessfully. It's unfair to assume that having family on staff had anything to do with the present problems, or that it caused any problems whatsover.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:22 PM
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Sometimes. I've seen family integrated both successfully and unsuccessfully. It's unfair to assume that having family on staff had anything to do with the present problems, or that it caused any problems whatsover.
Exactly. Nothing wrong with nepotism if it's deserved. It's when it's given undeservingly that problems arise.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:14 PM
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I do not personally know Bro. Black but have enjoyed hearing him preach through the years. That being said, I think the real problem "in the church" is that there is not enough marriage training? or teaching? whatever you want to call it. Women marry preachers many times, just because they are a preacher no matter what the man looks like, just for the prestige of being married to a preacher. Then the man gets this beautiful wife and if he does not know how to connect with her on an emotional level, their intimate life will be VERY minimal. Face it, men need sex. If he goes years without gettin it at home, he will find it somewhere. Too many of my friends have gotten divorced in the last 2 years, leaving 20+ years of marriage and their "preacher" husbands, either he cheated or her.

He wants sex, but doesn't know how to give his wife the emotional aspect to make her want it, and since he doesn't fulfill her emotionally she looks for another man to fulfill her in that manner.

Men are DUMB in most marriages, they think it's all about the mechanics, when in reality it's about that emotional connection.
I'm glad all the women got together.
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I am familiar with the church. I even visited a few times over the years. From what I understand TB's whole family was employed at the church. TB was on the payroll, as well as his wife, two sons-in-law, daughter, and son. Nepotism anyone?
Not a good sign. Family run business ok outside the church but not in it.
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Not a good sign. Family run business ok outside the church but not in it.
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